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Intel, NVIDIA respond to AMD-ATI news

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Intel, NVIDIA respond to AMD-ATI news
by Scott Wasson - 02:27 pm, July 24, 2006 We've asked Intel and NVIDIA to comment on today's news of AMD's bid to purchase ATI. Our questions and their responses are below. First up, NVIDIA.
Does NVIDIA have any official statements or comments on the news about AMD buying ATI? Today's news about the acquisition of ATI by AMD is a positive development for NVIDIA. We are now the only graphics processor and core logic company that supports both Intel and AMD processors. We will continue to execute on our strategy, which is to develop industry-changing GPU and platform technologies, extend the use of the GPU into new applications, and expand its reach into all computing devices - from PCs to servers to phones

How do you expect AMD's purchase of ATI to affect your partnerships with AMD?

AMD needs and wants the support of our leading brands - GeForce, nForce, Quadro, and SLI. We will continue to work with AMD to bring our brands to our mutual customers. On the other hand, our relationship with Intel is going to become much more intimate than before. We are now Intel's best GPU partner.

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Next, Intel had only this to say:
We will study the transaction but have no comment at this time about any possible impact it might have on our agreements with ATI.​
More soon, although I've gotta catch a plane to Sunnyvale.
18 comments — Last comment by DukenukemX at 07:04pm on 7/24/2006



 
don't see why, AMD and ATI seem interested in remaining amicable with intel and nvidia, and nvidia still show enormous interest in the AMD market, so we'll see how it goes :p
 
hmm it will be interesting to see what ati can achieve now that it has amd`s

r and d facilities at its disposal... there is no doubting amd`s ability to innovate
 
Translation: "In the short term, nothing changes, it's just a bit of hype to draw attention away from Intel, and for NVidia, nothing changes much either, but we'll add some spin on it to make it sound like it'll be good for business, thus making us sound better".
 
Phnom_Penh said:
Don't bet on it. AMD hold the 64 bit license that Intel need.
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There is no 64bit licence at all... its true that microsoft adopted AMD's 64 bit architecture, but I think thats because Intel became too pally with Apple

Stelly
 
Intel can't afford to kill off AMD, same as MS can't afford to kill off Apple. Competition stops you from being called a monopoly, unless the competition is rather weak.

Didn't Apple suddenly start creating good looking computers when MS were in trouble for being a Monopoly? Hmmm.

There's no x64 license per se. AMD have an agreement with Intel that works two ways. In short innovation on the x86 architecture itself can be used by either company, regardless of who created it initially. If anything, I imagine Intel could revoke the x86 license, removing AMD overnight. Of course I'm sure the US government would go ballistic, then the EU...
 
Nvidia will still produce chipsets for both companies, its in their interest. "You dont cut off your nose to spite your face", as they say.

Boogle said:
Didn't Apple suddenly start creating good looking computers when MS were in trouble for being a Monopoly? Hmmm.
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Apple have always made good looking computers ;). They just decided to change marketing tact and use translucent materials and bright colours, its forced PC manufacturers to dump beige from their colour schemes, at long last :).
 
=assassin= said:
Translation: "In the short term, nothing changes, it's just a bit of hype to draw attention away from Intel, and for NVidia, nothing changes much either, but we'll add some spin on it to make it sound like it'll be good for business, thus making us sound better".
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I agree with you lol
 
maybe this will change peoples thinking about AMD64 being property of AMD 'This left Intel in a position where they were forced to make an agreement with AMD to use the AMD64 extensions for their own 64-bit (EM64T) processors' so intel can't afford to engage a technology/patent war with AMD, cause AMD could in theory destroy conroe, merom, woodcrest, etc before there ever really released by severing intels agreement to use x86-64

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd
 
Gashman said:
maybe this will change peoples thinking about AMD64 being property of AMD 'This left Intel in a position where they were forced to make an agreement with AMD to use the AMD64 extensions for their own 64-bit (EM64T) processors' so intel can't afford to engage a technology/patent war with AMD, cause AMD could in theory destroy conroe, merom, woodcrest, etc before there ever really released by severing intels agreement to use x86-64

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd
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Also on that page:

On December 30, 1994 the Supreme Court of California finally formally denied AMD rights to use the i386's microcode. Afterwards AMD and Intel concluded an agreement, the details of which remain largely secret, which gave AMD the right to produce and sell microprocessors containing the microcodes of Intel 286, 386, and 486. The agreement appears to allow for full cross-licensing of patents and some copyrights, allowing each partner to use the other's technological innovations without charge. Whatever the details, no significant legal action had resulted between AMD and Intel (until the 2005 antitrust suits in Japan and the U.S.), and the agreement evidently provided a "clean break".
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thing is though, they both use a fair bit of eachothers technology so they can't afford to go to a legal process cause it'll proberbly screw over both sides, however i do feel intel pulled ATI license just to get the last laugh, why else would they do it, at a time when ATI are producing better and better chipsets. don't believe there crap when they say they 'don't need ATIs chipsets', i smell bull to be honest :rolleyes:
 
im just waiting for a fight to kick off. no way can amd own ati and ati still supply amd with tech and vice versa. something is gonna kickoff soon.

this is just the calm before the storm arrives.
 
Thats the thing, AMD and Intel have a cross license, its much harder if not impossible to pull it.

Its more than a fair deal for AMD, who get to use intels patents for X86 (16/32bit), MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3 and SSE4, and Intel who get X86-64. Intel could also have used 3DNow, but why would they bother SSE's better. Intel just dont 'like' using anything they didnt brew up in house. Look at Hypertransport. Intel could just 'use' it, but instead they will develop their own 'CSI' interconnect.

Anyway Intel and AMD signed a new cross license just as the previous one expired. They can both use each others patented processor technology for many years to come. Neither of them are going to change this
 
What I personally think we're gonna see is Nvidia getting a lot cosier with Intel. It might be reciprocal but I'm not sure Intel cares a great deal... this seems to be borne out in the initial statements from the companies.

One must always remember that the enthusiast market is probably 5% at most of the respective companies total sales volumes. When it comes to their bread and butter business all of them make their big money from corporates and embedded chips, etc.

I have a feeling Nvidias next move might be to "unlock" SLI on Intel 975X chipsets. Hacked drivers clearly show that the obstacle to SLI on these chipsets is only in software.
 
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