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Intel vs AMD?

cHk4

cHk4

cHk4

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I'm not trying to start a war but I'm on the verge of potentially building a new system. I know we don't know the full spec of Zen 3 of the 11th Gen Intel so I guess we can only base things around what we do know. I've had AMD once many years ago and didn't like it, the Intel counter part at the time performed so much better and since then I've always been Intel but things change and products get better.

Ignore the PCIe4 thing for the moment but it's very hard to get a non bias view on something, I know AMD perform certain tasks better than intel and vice versa and some of the review sites seem to have a clear bias towards one or the other. Looking at the OcUK pre built machines and the most expensive AMD machine I believe (outside of the 15k one) is £2,300 and that doesn't even have the option of a 2080ti in it and the Intel one is considerably more, I know you can't answer for OcUK but why is this? Is it just Intel is that much more expensive?

I'm going to be buying a 3090, I don't really care for the AMD GPU offering but I need to start making an informed decision on which route to go.

Please keep this civil, I know you all rock but I'm genuinely curious and wondering if it's time to switch.

Thanks
 
No, either way it is time to wait.
Wait until new Ryzen arrives.
You'll be waiting for your 3090 anyway, and there is no reason you can't use it in your currently system then move to new Ryzen.
 
Grim5 said:
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Destination said:
No, either way it is time to wait.
Wait until new Ryzen arrives.
You'll be waiting for your 3090 anyway, and there is no reason you can't use it in your currently system then move to new Ryzen.
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jigger said:
Unless you buy a Xeon w3175x and Radeon 7 and lc49g95tssuxe you will be dominated by a PlayStation 5 and lg48cx6lb.
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Journey said:
Close the thread, and reopen it again in November, then you'll get some sensible answers with facts to back them up. :)
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Thank you everyone! Based on the last post I think I'll do that, if I can figure out how :) Thank you all
 
If your use case is purely, 100% gaming then even now Intel is the top dog for absolute gaming performance, and you pay a premium for it. In real-world terms, Intel's lead only exists in any meaningful way in extreme cases. Zen 3's internal design tweaks are very likely to take the gaming crown away from Intel, and 11th gen is very unlikely to get it back. But only real benchmarks will back all this up.

I'd still be inclined to wait until the New Year before pulling the trigger on anything.
 
"Ignore the PCIe4 thing for the moment" - doesn't make sense in our days, specially if using 3090, why suffocate your new and shinny gpu :confused:
 
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Given your clear intention to buy whatever the fastest card is i would just say get the 10900K, it is the fastest Gaming CPU if only by a small margin it is the best for that use case.

BUT, as per above zen 3 is about to land with a promising view to beating Intel in gaming, so if you can wait, wait :)
 
I would steer clear of intel, wait for Zen3 and forget that intel rubbish.
As for video cards, the 3000 series looks good but....... RDNA 2 might just take it this time.
 
I was wondering what tool said ignore pcie4, then realised it was the OP.
People tend to upgrade their GPU twice as often as their CPU, thus but the 'next' upgrade having ignored pcie4, you'll have left everything on the table.
If your use case is mainly gaming, then it would be long term insane to ignore pcie4.
If you use case is anything other than gaming, then AMD is where you wish to be,
 
cHk4 said:
I'm not trying to start a war but I'm on the verge of potentially building a new system. I know we don't know the full spec of Zen 3 of the 11th Gen Intel so I guess we can only base things around what we do know. I've had AMD once many years ago and didn't like it, the Intel counter part at the time performed so much better and since then I've always been Intel but things change and products get better.

Ignore the PCIe4 thing for the moment but it's very hard to get a non bias view on something, I know AMD perform certain tasks better than intel and vice versa and some of the review sites seem to have a clear bias towards one or the other. Looking at the OcUK pre built machines and the most expensive AMD machine I believe (outside of the 15k one) is £2,300 and that doesn't even have the option of a 2080ti in it and the Intel one is considerably more, I know you can't answer for OcUK but why is this? Is it just Intel is that much more expensive?

I'm going to be buying a 3090, I don't really care for the AMD GPU offering but I need to start making an informed decision on which route to go.

Please keep this civil, I know you all rock but I'm genuinely curious and wondering if it's time to switch.

Thanks
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Given that the "mainstream" Ryzen 9 3950X with just 16 cores is actually faster than the HEDT Core i9-10980XE, you can have your own summaries without too much help:


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+9+3950X&id=3598


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-10980XE+@+3.00GHz&id=3630


The problem is that Intel still has superior reputation and AMD's market share is around only 20ish percents.
 
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