Intel X-25M
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Because it works, and the OCZ really doesn't..
The problems seen on the small random writes taking upto ten seconds to complete make the OCZ unuseable for many applications. The intel drive does not suffer from this problem, and is justifiably more expensive.
I do agree that they are way expensive, and really not worth it to me, but the OCZ is not the real competition, the SLC SSDs are.
The problems seen on the small random writes taking upto ten seconds to complete make the OCZ unuseable for many applications. The intel drive does not suffer from this problem, and is justifiably more expensive.
I do agree that they are way expensive, and really not worth it to me, but the OCZ is not the real competition, the SLC SSDs are.
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Just seen the price
think I'll wait for one.
think I'll wait for one.
Exactly......
Two OCZ v2 SSD in RAID 0 with a decent RAID card, is still cheaper AND faster than one of the Intel drives.
They need a serious price drop!
And next month we have OCZ Core v3......
I will, but not in the next year or two.
The original issue with the non-intel was that the controller chip used for all of them had issues in latency thus resulted in shuttering during repeated writes (such as log files).
However £600 for 32GB SLC - surely they're joking. Given Spring and that price will drop but as always hit the first adopters who simply must have.
Even still I would wait till v3 of the non-intel drives come out as I'd expect the controller chip to be updated to be updated to rival Intel.
However £600 for 32GB SLC - surely they're joking. Given Spring and that price will drop but as always hit the first adopters who simply must have.
Even still I would wait till v3 of the non-intel drives come out as I'd expect the controller chip to be updated to be updated to rival Intel.
My understanding is that the OCZ drives are fine so long as your motherboard doesn't have an Intel chipset. I'm crossing my fingers that the V3 SSDs will overcome that issue
What chipset does the MacBook have? Meant to work fine with it.
My understanding is that the OCZ drives are fine so long as your motherboard doesn't have an Intel chipset. I'm crossing my fingers that the V3 SSDs will overcome that issue
The intel chipset issue is just one of the problems - the controllers on ALL of the current MLC drives is deeply flawed rendering the drives almost unusable in some cases. I would be very interested to see if a decent controller card helps - but TBH I doubt it - Hopefully the next gen of MLC cards will solve this and the competition will bring the price of the intel drives down - Your MacBook (yuck) will NOT be immune to the lag problems on the current MLC cards. It's the controller that's at faullt and is incapable of dealing with large IO queues or Random Access requests (ie if you try downloading something straight to the drive while browsing the net and playing music alll at the same time.)
Hold on, so you're saying even the Intel has the same problem?
This guy wouldn't agree: http://paulstamatiou.com/2008/10/29/review-intel-x25-m-80gb-ssd
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No the Intel doesn't have that problem. He's mistaken.
I think there is a bit of confusion as to which controller is causing the major problems, it is the Jmicron internal controller used in virtually all MLC drive apart from the new intel one, within the drive itself. Using an external raid controller will not in any way remove this problem.
The compatibility problem experienced with Intel chipset boards are likely to be avoided by using a raid card, but with the extremely poor write performance, actually measure in seconds in some situations, what is the point?
The compatibility problem experienced with Intel chipset boards are likely to be avoided by using a raid card, but with the extremely poor write performance, actually measure in seconds in some situations, what is the point?
There are lots of reports over on MacRumors that these extremely slow writes (I'm talking about the OCZ here) either aren't happening or are just not apparent on the new MacBooks. People who've had the drive in one machine and had it perform horribly and swapped it into a MacBook to find it great aren't uncommon, which is strange. I've ordered one to see what the state of play is, so I'll report back tomorrow.
I guess it depends on how the OS uses the drive, I suspect that the Macbook running Vista will be the same as any PC running Vista. From the articles that I read it was multiple small random writes that kills the OCZ( and other Jmicron based) drives. If the OS does not do lots of random writes then there will be no problems
No - not at all - the Intel SDDs are flawless.
The current crop of MLC SSDs (other than the Intel ones) -using the JMicron controller - as stated above - all have problems with random access combined with a long IO queue.
The confusion comes from the previous question about OCZ drives which reportedly ALSO have problems with intel motherboard chipsets.