Intelligent Octopus Go - just when I thought I understood!

sandys said:
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Thanks but this didn't really answer my questions of how to set up the various devices - car itself, charger device and various apps.

It seems from this thread that people are using all manner of combinations of things.

Jay85 said:
Yup, i usually charge the car early and set an early departure time so i can get a cheap rate through the evening when im actually using electronic devices. I've had cheap rates as early as 18:30pm and all the way through until the car is fully charged.
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What do you have to configure to do this?
 
danlightbulb said:
Thanks but this didn't really answer my questions of how to set up the various devices - car itself, charger device and various apps.

It seems from this thread that people are using all manner of combinations of things.



What do you have to configure to do this?
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All i do is literally set my departure time or end time in the octopus app and the rest configures itself out. Also depends on the state of charge of your vehicle, so the lower the battery the better as it will take longer to charge to full. I am using a granny charger though so it does take awhile to get to full on my Mini Cooper SE.
 
Jay85 said:
All i do is literally set my departure time or end time in the octopus app and the rest configures itself out. Also depends on the state of charge of your vehicle, so the lower the battery the better as it will take longer to charge to full. I am using a granny charger though so it does take awhile to get to full on my Mini Cooper SE.
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So if I set say 5am as my departure time (in the octopus app?) the smart charger will definitely have me charged by 5am?

What do you have to set the car to do, cap to the 80% or is that done in the app as well?
 
danlightbulb said:
So if I set say 5am as my departure time (in the octopus app?) the smart charger will definitely have me charged by 5am?

What do you have to set the car to do, cap to the 80% or is that done in the app as well?
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You can cap the charge in the app, but if it has a wobble it'll just charge to 100%. So best to set limit both in the car and app.
 
danlightbulb said:
So if I set say 5am as my departure time (in the octopus app?) the smart charger will definitely have me charged by 5am?

What do you have to set the car to do, cap to the 80% or is that done in the app as well?
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If you're using the octopus app, you should disable all over apps that control the charge rate of your car. For my Mini, in the mini app i set it to scheduled but the Octopus app will override it.
 
danlightbulb said:
Thanks but this didn't really answer my questions of how to set up the various devices - car itself, charger device and various apps.
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It tells you exactly what to do, there's a big section in text but its mostly in the simple table for Zappi integration, you just have to read it and follow it. Then the Octopus app control your car charging, simple.
 
if you are using your ohm for intelligent octopus then (at least with the zappi) using it as a dumb charger is correct.

or is it different with the ohm than it is with zappi? my zappi does not talk to the car at all, when I want to charge I use the octopus app and tell it what percentage of the cars capacity I want adding.

so if the car is at 20%, I want to to go to 80% by 5:30am the following morning I go to the app, and request60% charge by 5:30 am then plug in.

the only minor wrinkle is we have 2EVs. octopus account is set up with the car with the largest battery
so my car has an 85kwh usable capacity,
my wife's car has a usable 28kwh battery.

so with her car if it is at 20% and I want to to go to 80% I basically divide by 3 as roughly my car has 3x more usable battery than my wife's.

so if I want 60% adding to the wife's car I request 20% on the octopus app.

but the charge point itself is totally oblivious it just adds what ever octopus tell it to add until either the battery is full or the car rejects the charge due to a failsafe charge level set in the car (a feature my car does not have as it happens)

if your charge is regularly going massively over what you want it to.... are you sure you have added the correct car to your octopus account. ? for instance a colleague of mine put the wrong Tesla model on his account which meant octopus thought he had a smaller battery than what he actually had (or so I am told by his wife) so their charge levels were wrong and he never got the charge he wanted..
 
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bigmike20vt said:
if you are using your ohm for intelligent octopus then (at least with the zappi) using it as a dumb charger is correct.

or is it different with the ohm than it is with zappi? my zappi does not talk to the car at all, when I want to charge I use the octopus app and tell it what percentage of the cars capacity I want adding.

so if the car is at 20%, I want to to go to 80% by 5:30am the following morning I go to the app, and request60% charge by 5:30 am then plug in.

the only minor wrinkle is we have 2EVs. octopus account is set up with the car with the largest battery
so my car has an 85kwh usable capacity,
my wife's car has a usable 28kwh battery.

so with her car if it is at 20% and I want to to go to 80% I basically divide by 3 as roughly my car has 3x more usable battery than my wife's.

so if I want 60% adding to the wife's car I request 20% on the octopus app.

but the charge point itself is totally oblivious it just adds what ever octopus tell it to add until either the battery is full or the car rejects the charge due to a failsafe charge level set in the car (a feature my car does not have as it happens)

if your charge is regularly going massively over what you want it to.... are you sure you have added the correct car to your octopus account. ? for instance a colleague of mine put the wrong Tesla model on his account which meant octopus thought he had a smaller battery than what he actually had (or so I am told by his wife) so their charge levels were wrong and he never got the charge he wanted..
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That doesn't seem any good. I just want the car to charge to 80% whenever its plugged in regardless of what it starts at.
 
danlightbulb said:
That doesn't seem any good. I just want the car to charge to 80% whenever its plugged in regardless of what it starts at.
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then either do what Sandys says or, if your car does not have that feature it takes maybe 30 seconds to go into the app and adjust what you are asking for depending on your car starting level.
 
if IO is already linked to the zappi you would already have done it, however if you think it was done wrong you can open the octopus app click the head image top right, devices ,and under intelligent octopus go remove device

then follow the relevant parts of this video to add again

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Finally i can charge my Kia EV6 on Intelligent Octopus Go using my Zappi chargerð¥³ð

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Right, I seem to have discovered potentially what went wrong.

Octopus did tell me that the car did smart charge, however the timing of the charge they told me did not match my charging time (which started around midnight)

I opened up the zappi app and lo and behold, there's a charge schedule in it! I never added this but have now cleared it so will try again soon!!
 
Pickers said:
Right, I seem to have discovered potentially what went wrong.

Octopus did tell me that the car did smart charge, however the timing of the charge they told me did not match my charging time (which started around midnight)

I opened up the zappi app and lo and behold, there's a charge schedule in it! I never added this but have now cleared it so will try again soon!!
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make sure the zappi is on eco+ as well.
 
Are people really editing their charger and departure times, daily?

I’ve a zappi and have been on IOG since it was available.

100%, 6am. I’ve not touched it since.
 
i dont usually touch my departure time, but yes i do change what i request based on how much i need for my car, that way it allows octopus to make best use of clean energy, which is the point of IO.
for me its not daily though, i charge the wifes i3 once every 3 days and mine once every 2 - 3 weeks depending on what i am doing.
 
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depends if you are leaving earlier or later, really needs the ability to set a time per day, our days are pretty fixed, but leave at different times on certain days, with the right time set you can heat/cool the car before you leave on the low rate so yes, why wouldn't you change it.

The point of it being intelligent is so Octopus can give you the slots they want within the time set.
 
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danlightbulb said:
How often do you get a cheap slot in the daytime and how do you know you have it? And how long is it?
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For me the Ohme app tells you the slots you have been given, and it totally depends on the grid at the time, and when you've set your departure time for. There are very few occasions when I haven't had extra slots due the afternoon or evening, and generally all weekend.
 
Journey said:
For me the Ohme app tells you the slots you have been given, and it totally depends on the grid at the time, and when you've set your departure time for. There are very few occasions when I haven't had extra slots due the afternoon or evening, and generally all weekend.
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My car charge stays fairly high, so I haven't been plugging it in... Should I be doing so to u lock cheaper slots?
 
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