Iphone or Andriod: Which first smartphone for Oxy?

I'm not worried about doing the unlockign and rooting I just need to fully understand what I am doing before I do something that could potential brick a new device, years of linux use has taught me to read a lot before jumping with both feet :p

so all in all, this SF even with a TFT screen is a good buy for a newbie, if I get really into this smartphone stuff I could always get an ihpone5/HTC new one whenever i feel the need.

What are the advantages of a custom rom over default 2.2 android?

Whats the best custom rom for the San Fransisco?

I don't wanna go custom rom if it means the phone won't be stable.
 
I have an iphone 4 and I have had a hero.

There are pros and cons with both systems.

If you buy sim free then they are comparable on cost. If you buy a contract, the android wins hands down because of the better deals available.

Android phones have this wonderful "we can do anything if you fiddle enough" feel to them. They do require shedloads of fiddling though. The fragmentation of the platform is a royal pain in the ass.

An iphone, in general, just works. More and more the iphone has a polished app for something that requires 2 or 3 apps on android. In addition, you know there is no problem wih software not reaching you with the latest and greatest improvements. It will roll out for everyone with apple. There are infuriating flaws too with an iphone; itunes is sent for hell to plague me, when something is broken, iot wont be fixed for a while (android bugs tend to get workarounds quickly).

For me it comes to the basics; the iphone has a very good battery life, it works very well with no effort. A top end android phone might work perfectly with a hell of lot of tweaking and battery life is not so great.

If i had to choose, it would come down to whether I could live with itunes and whether I wanted to dedicate evenings fiddling with my phone to make it better.

I hate itunes , but I am not going to spend 2 hours a week wiping and improving my phone. I cant be assed.

Iphone for me for now and android as soon as the platform fragmentation improves and I can do things without permanent tweaking.


as a side thought, the iphone camera is superb.
 
I wouldn't compare the iPhone 4 to a HTC Hero. The iPhone 4 is WAY better, even though the Hero has Android, its old and with the new 2.1+ its awfully slow and bad.

Did I mention its bad? :p
 
Oxy said:
I'm not worried about doing the unlockign and rooting I just need to fully understand what I am doing before I do something that could potential brick a new device, years of linux use has taught me to read a lot before jumping with both feet :p

so all in all, this SF even with a TFT screen is a good buy for a newbie, if I get really into this smartphone stuff I could always get an ihpone5/HTC new one whenever i feel the need.

What are the advantages of a custom rom over default 2.2 android?

Whats the best custom rom for the San Fransisco?

I don't wanna go custom rom if it means the phone won't be stable.
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Unfourtunatly from my research there is no 100% working 2.2 rom out there for the San Francisco. Your have to live with bugs etc....

As 2.2 Android is not even officially supported on the device, its always going to be a hack job.

Presently this is something that is putting me off.
 
Jabbs said:
preferred launcher pro /shrugs :)

Android needs bolting down as it takes far too long for htc for example to add it too there sense UI, so you end up waiting 6 months for it which is a joke.



You have to admit if Apple hadn't released IOS and the Iphone we wouldn't have anything like this now, they are the ones that started this whole phone revolution off, hell when the Iphone was out I had a LG Viewty which at the time was classed as the top phone and IOS destroyed it and paved the way to what's about now.
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Not really. Palm probably started it, then WinMo, then iOS then Android came along.:p
 
Apple was the first big one to bring anything major to the market and pretty much changed how phones are today, there was no phones of that scale until they released the Iphone it was miles ahead of its competitors, anyway this threads over the op has chosen his phone.
 
Broken Hope said:
Android has widgets, so it can do stuff even cooler. Look through the phone desktop thread, the majority of those are android shots.
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But then also go and look in the apple forum for iPhone shots, plenty in there. Just because they aren't in here doesn't meant there aren't many on the forums.
 
Oxy said:
I'm not worried about doing the unlockign and rooting I just need to fully understand what I am doing before I do something that could potential brick a new device, years of linux use has taught me to read a lot before jumping with both feet :p

so all in all, this SF even with a TFT screen is a good buy for a newbie, if I get really into this smartphone stuff I could always get an ihpone5/HTC new one whenever i feel the need.

What are the advantages of a custom rom over default 2.2 android?

Whats the best custom rom for the San Fransisco?

I don't wanna go custom rom if it means the phone won't be stable.
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Why do you want to root it? You only want to use very basic apps which don't need rooting for.

People go on about android out of the box, but yet almost everyone goes on about rooting it for more.
 
Gah I don't know... talk of pap screens on the SF and android being slow is putting me off. gah maybe I should have never seen the iphone and i would still be happy with my pap nokia.

itunes doesnt really bother me, I don't listen to music anyway.
 
Morba said:
Why do you want to root it? You only want to use very basic apps which don't need rooting for.

People go on about android out of the box, but yet almost everyone goes on about rooting it for more.
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That's because you're on a forum, where majority of the users know more than your average Joe about all things computers (Android phones being Mini computers running basically a Linux kernel).

So they root their phones as it allows them to tinker. However, outside of OcUK, XDA and Modaco etc - I bet not even 10% of total Android users are rooted.

Rooting will allow him to run custom ROMs and kernels which will make the phone even better, getting him more for his cash.
 
Rooting will let him do loads, none of which he needs or has expressed a want to have.

Oxy, how about a second hand iPhone 3GS? Relatively cheap and can run ios4 or just do everything you want without really doing anything?
Won't be as expensive as an iPhone4 either.
 
You see I don't even know what it can do si I wouldn't role anything out. Tbh though there was nothing on my friends iphone I would want to change...

Sending my mum down town and if orange have stock of an SF i'll try it, if it's pap it's only £90
 
I was in the same boat as you and wanted an IPOD Touch with phone capabilities but was immediately put off by the price.
Apple obviously look at it as though you are buying an IPOD Touch and then slap a phone contract on top.
I saw a couple of people using Android phones and immediately got hooked but now it came to the right price.
Last monday my Samsung Galaxy arrived which will cost me £14.58/month with another £80 coming from Quidco.
I absolutely love this gadget, filled it full of stuff and the GPS has been spot on everytime.
I had the clearance model which means it went out and came back within 7 days but you wouldn't know it.
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-clearance.html

I'm an Apple fanboy when it comes to IPODs but why anybody would get an Iphone over an Android is beyond me.
 
dmpoole said:
I was in the same boat as you and wanted an IPOD Touch with phone capabilities but was immediately put off by the price.
Apple obviously look at it as though you are buying an IPOD Touch and then slap a phone contract on top.
I saw a couple of people using Android phones and immediately got hooked but now it came to the right price.
Last monday my Samsung Galaxy arrived which will cost me £14.58/month with another £80 coming from Quidco.
I absolutely love this gadget, filled it full of stuff and the GPS has been spot on everytime.
I had the clearance model which means it went out and came back within 7 days but you wouldn't know it.
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-clearance.html

I'm an Apple fanboy when it comes to IPODs but why anybody would get an Iphone over an Android is beyond me.
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So you would have a Wildfire or an X10 over an iPhone?
 
If you really like the iPhone, then get the iPhone - either way you'll be paying through the nose for it either through a contract or SIM free.

Personally, after coming from an iPhone 3G/3GS - I think HTC's Android Phones flagship phones are more functional and just as polished and quick (note, my belief is that only applies to HTC's Android phones).

I had issues with Android when I first started using it, there's a thread on here with a review of my HTC Desire but pretty much all of those issues have been sorted out (they mainly revolved around the applications/Android Market).

If you have the money, or don't care about the cost and want to be a pretentious person who thinks having an iPhone enables you to sit next to Zeus on Mt Olympus - get an iPhone.

If you want a phone that will do everything the iPhone can and more for less cash, then get the SF or another Android phone.
 
Mekrel said:
If you have the money, or don't care about the cost and want to be a pretentious person who thinks having an iPhone enables you to sit next to Zeus on Mt Olympus - get an iPhone.
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What a pointless addition to your post.
 
Morba said:
So you would have a Wildfire or an X10 over an iPhone?
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Even though you're having a pop at me that's the beauty of Android which is you can come into the Android market at a very low level where you have no option with an Iphone.
Obviously to directly compete with an Iphone you have to come at an HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy level (apologies for the handsets I've missed out).
My wife doesn't need the gadgets that I need it for and the phones you mentioned would be perfect for her.
In fact she was trying a LG GT540 which she was very impressed with.
 
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