IRA v ISIS

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chunk said:
Its not a ridiculous comparison and its one i've seen made by several people who are probably considerably more intelligent and clued up on the situation than either you or I.

I've also no idea why you are trying to one up me by saying you lived in the conflict like its some kind of competition as to who has been more effected by the IRA.

Strange post all round.

And again... why is no one arsed about Boko Haram, they commit genocide in the name of religion but no one's demanding we bomb the crap out of them or invade nigeria or whatever.
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The IRA and Al-Qaeda are more alike than ISIS. The IRA can survive underground and pop up to attack, ISIS have to gain territory and hold it to be a 'state'. The SAS hunted down IRA members though.

The IRA wanted a united Ireland and you could negotiate towards that. ISIS want to obliterate western society and build their caliphate on the rubble of our society and it's much harder to give in to those demands.
 
chunk said:
So the IRA were responsible for killing 2000 british people, far more than ISIS have killed (brits that is) but for some reason we never had people saying 'all the irish community must stand up and publicly deplore such behaviour'... it never happened. No one ever called for us to invade or bomb Ireland either to fix the problem...

So how come when ISIS kill people (most of whom aren't even brits) everyone says that the entire muslim community should unite and publicly criticise such behaviour ? Plus lots of people want us to invade and bomb them as well.

Same goes for Boko Haram who have supposedly killed far more than ISIS, no one ever says we need to invade parts of Africa to sort it out.

It's like one rule for the middle east, another for everywhere else.
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I think if you actually check history and not be so close minded you will find many of the community in Northern Ireland did try to stand up to IRA, spoke against them, provided them no support.
You post suggests some internal anger and complete inability to view history in its context.
You say it never happened, it did. People died for it.
 
chunk said:
Its not a ridiculous comparison and its one i've seen made by several people who are probably considerably more intelligent and clued up on the situation than either you or I.

I've also no idea why you are trying to one up me by saying you lived in the conflict like its some kind of competition as to who has been more effected by the.
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It is a ridiculous comparison.
 
Krakkenbus said:
Hang on..... You have heard of the hyde park bombing? That's the first that jumps to mind. A group that already carried out an attack aren't a threat.....
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Key word is "existential" i.e. if the PIRA had won, the UK would still have existed pretty much the same as it does now. If Islamic State wins, we won't.
 
chunk said:
And again... why is no one arsed about Boko Haram, they commit genocide in the name of religion but no one's demanding we bomb the crap out of them or invade nigeria or whatever.
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"Military chiefs from Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon, Benin and Niger are finalising their strategy for a 8,750-strong regional force to tackle the militant Islamist group Boko Haram"

On top of that, France and the US are aiding them with support. They also don't need us to bomb the crap out of them, they do have their own air force to do that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-31593802
 
Mart2912 said:
"Military chiefs from Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon, Benin and Niger are finalising their strategy for a 8,750-strong regional force to tackle the militant Islamist group Boko Haram"

On top of that, France and the US are aiding them with support. They also don't need us to bomb the crap out of them, they do have their own air force to do that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-31593802
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I thought it was pretty clear i was talking about the general public not the worlds government...

Hikari Kisugi said:
It is a ridiculous comparison.
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in your opinion it is, in plenty of other peoples views its perfectly reasonable.

get over it.
 
chunk said:
note to self, must avoid forums with lots of right wingers.

fairwell
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Or perhaps with people who lived in Ireland during the troubles and take great offense at your opening gambit that they did nothing to talk down, dissist, prevent or speak out against the terrorist actions that killed the people around them.
Maybe avoid them.
Maybe avoid telling them they don't know anything about it, and that you know more because you read on the internet that someone once said it.
Maybe thats who you should avoid.
Maybe avoid being so badly informed that your viewpoint makes you look ridiculous.
 
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