Iran agents 'planned US terror attacks'

[StriderX]

Have Iran started trading oil in Euros already? I thought we were going to do Syria first.

The casualty count would be too embarrassing, their weapons are much better than ones we'v...our moronic leaders have faced...since they did supply them after all.

Syria is a much more powerful adversary, albeit they would never win against a full coalition force, it still would never be worth it and it would lose the public forever.

All these wars are simply massive slaps in the faces of the western population, a fun little game.

 

[Biohazard]

assassination isnt terrorism is it?

Only when it's America doing the unlawful killing.

 

[CmJared]

How can there be more wars aren't we still struggling in Afghanistan?

 

[Stretch]

Religion has nothing to do with it, there are far more same-religion wars than otherwise.

Most of those come down to religion though. If this was 300-400 years ago there's no doubt the CoE would have had a large bust up over gay clergy.

 

[Freakbro]

Reading the BBC Article about this it seems a stretch to call it a terrorist attack - assassination isnt terrorism is it?

That was my thought too, but lets not let facts get in the way of a good headline.

 

[dowie]

And ignoring it like you do makes you the least bit credible? loon. I guess Orwell was right, the sheep will just let it happen.

Not ignoring anything - you're just being credulous. As for being a 'loon' for bashing a stupid conspiracy theory

I'm well aware that you tin foil hat wearing muppets believe everyone else is just 'sheep' but how about going over to the david ickle forums where all the other muppets hang out rather than spewing your 911 was a conspiracy bile on a normal forum.

 

[ShaolinDreams]

Not ignoring anything - you're just being credulous. As for being a 'loon' for bashing a stupid conspiracy theory

I'm well aware that you tin foil hat wearing muppets believe everyone else is just 'sheep' but how about going over to the david ickle forums where all the other muppets hang out rather than spewing your 911 was a conspiracy bile on a normal forum.

Well it's actually ironic both parties think the other is gullible. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between.

 

[Delvis]

Well it's actually ironic both parties think the other is gullible. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between.

...Like...Explosives where planted, then a randomplane flew in to the building?!

 

[Xordium]

And that is what's coming imo. I hope most people see through the lies. Pixel was honest enough to post he doesn't care much about Iran but America needs to stop the BS, but they won't. Scaremongering works wonders in this day and age and the media is a powerful tool that must be used to maximum benefit, I just hope people see through it all, these people are proven liars.

Iran and Pakistan are, and have been at the top of the hit list for a while and as I've been saying for years, it is all to protect and maintain the security of Israel. I anticipate things to really kick off within the next 12-18 months.

Yer well most of us will see this for what it is and not the forecoming of some mystic mumbo-jumbo.

OP: The US does not have the capability to start a war in Iran - worst case scenario small surgical strike - most likely small operations to show capability and diplomatic sabre-rattling. If the US had of been willing to explore peace they would have taken the opportunity after 9/11 yet they didn't and now seem shocked when the unsuccessful moderates lost to a nutter who captured the poor with dreams of financial reward. Very little they can do about it now Iran is a military powerhouse unconquerable by the assets the US currently has employed when they also have to keep a fleet close to Taiwan and Japan.

 

[Danthus]

Possibly the outspoken intention of wiping Israel off of the map.

I do however, away from this, broadly reject claims of superiority of nuclear armed states in dictating who can have access to what technology, professing Nuclear dissarmament while still playing cold war games with new missiles, delivery and shield technology.

Removing MAD is surely a difficult thing to achieve, but we could show some morality to the world and lead the way.

The whole "wipe Israel of the map" remark is contentious though, plenty of academics question whetther or not that is what was actually said.

Reading the BBC Article about this it seems a stretch to call it a terrorist attack - assassination isnt terrorism is it?

You could say that, we are also being asked to believe that this is a high level plot by Iran.

Only when it's America doing the unlawful killing.

Call them enemy combatants, they have virtually no rights then.

 

[Danthus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15269348

Quite an interesting read.

Mr Arbabsiar, who was arrested at New York's John F Kennedy airport on 29 September, has confessed to his involvement in the alleged plot, Mr Holder said.

A lawyer for Mr Arbabsiar said he would plead not guilty when he was officially indicted.

Also a synopsis of the plot can be read here

http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-re...saudi-arabian-ambassador-to-the-united-states

Given the western feeling towards Iran, why then would Iran plot to assassinate a Saudi national on American soil.

 

[A2Z]

Iran's continuing nuclear proliferation is a huge destabilising factor in the region. Going to war would boost Americas economy and push the debt bucket down the road for a while. By eliminating Iran, or bringing it to its knees a huge chunk of the middle east is gone from Muslim power. America would then almost fully surround Pakistan, with India on the other side. Pakistan is now surrounded and its influence is weakened, they stop funding Americas enemies and some stability can be seen to exist in the middle east, but under western influence. Except for a rouge nation here and there, "the west" now stretches uninterrupted all the way from Europe to Russia and China. Russia and China in tern begin to run out of nation states they can arm against the west, as a secondary offence. America et al can now install a curtain of missile defence and launch systems, pinning in Russia and China, ensuring America can sustain its position as the dominating economy of the world.

And what's wrong with that? Would rather America controlled anything rather those extreme terrorists...

 

[B&W]

Load of nonsense, Iran has everything to loose and nothing to gain from killing a saudi ambassador. The same goes for the cartel, they risk a lot and gain very little.

Can someone tell me what Iran would gain by doing this? And don't give me that nonsense about them being crazed terrorists. Terrorists are majority Sunni, Iranians are mostly Shia.

And the suspect, a middle aged used cars salesman with a criminal record?!

 

[boxman2000]

You mean threatening a country that ordinarily had no ability to attack America, has had some blowback and caused a terrorist threat?

Surely not! They wouldn't make that mistake (again)

*cough* Iraq
*cough* Afghanistan
*cough**cough**cough**cough**cough*

 

[FishFluff]

I honestly don't care if the US wants to start a war with Iran as long as they leave the UK out of it.

 

[kwerk]

Iran is bad, because Israel says it is.

fixed.

 

[RoboCod]

Load of nonsense, Iran has everything to loose and nothing to gain from killing a saudi ambassador. The same goes for the cartel, they risk a lot and gain very little.

Can someone tell me what Iran would gain by doing this? And don't give me that nonsense about them being crazed terrorists. Terrorists are majority Sunni, Iranians are mostly Shia.

And the suspect, a middle aged used cars salesman with a criminal record?!

Considering that Shia make up what 7+% of the Muslim world as opposed to 80+% Sunni, that statement is a bit of a misnomer. Then you can go into the debate of what exactly is a terrorist, i.e. Bashar Assad is terrorising his people, he's Alawite Shia Muslim. Are you biased per chance?

 

[Tefal]

Load of nonsense, Iran has everything to loose and nothing to gain from killing a saudi ambassador. The same goes for the cartel, they risk a lot and gain very little.

Can someone tell me what Iran would gain by doing this? And don't give me that nonsense about them being crazed terrorists. Terrorists are majority Sunni, Iranians are mostly Shia.

Raise tensions between America and Saudi Arabia.

 

[RoboCod]

I also don't see a single hint that the US want war over this... am I missing something? The most serious suggestion was a hint at more sanctions on Iran but seeing as Russia and China have veto'd any sanctions against Syria do we really think they would even bat an eyelid of accepting sanctions against Iran over such vague claims of assassination plots?

Again: spin, media war, BS, nothing.

 

[Chives]

how overstretched the west is now.

I disagree - the west easily has enough manpower and resources to launch an Invasion of Iran.