Iran Marks Revolution

[a1ex2001]

Israel on the other hand....

There lies Irans bigest problem, the US won't touch them if they have nukes but the Isreali's are crazy enough to go for a first strike option.

 

[meghatronic]

"An anti-war march or Facebook petition? Oohh I'm petrified!! What shall we do?" -- <Government>
"Continue as planned." -- <Lizardman>
"Yes master" -- <Government>

I'm not so sure. Look at the Backlash over Iraq, that has washed over to Afghanistan now.

Remember, the public are stupid.

 

[Muzy]

I predict a war in the next ten years , Iran is simply testing the USA.

you are missing a fact here.

Do you know anything about 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict ? Hezbollah used 800-2000 Soldiers against 38,000+ israeli soldiers. Israel lost that war; Iran installed and trained Hezbollah.

Do you SERIOUSLY expect me to believe USA, Britin, France, Israel will go against 4millions+ suicidal Iranian soldiers
-you are dreaming.

/let's assume they go to war. Iran first target is the Oil fields in Arabia + closing the persian gulf. Global economy crisis ?

m8, just look at the history of wars, and tell me, Who has started the most wars ?.

 

[Tummy]

I predict a war in the next ten years , Iran is simply testing the USA.

Your sig is too big.

4 Lines.

 

[Tefal]

There lies Irans bigest problem, the US won't touch them if they have nukes but the Isreali's are crazy enough to go for a first strike option.

Israel arn't crazy.

They are very very good at at war and strategy.

It's only because Iran spent so long actually making the facilities bomb proof before even trying to start enrichment that Israel haven't completely destroyed them like they have everyone else who's tried.

If Israel believes there is enough of a threat though, and with the advances in bunker busting nuclear weapons, they may use a nuclear first strike on the enrichment facility (which is fortified enough to withstand any conventional air assault) before Iran make one.

 

[Tefal]

you are missing a fact here.

Do you know anything about 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict ? Hezbollah used 800-2000 Soldiers against 38,000+ israeli soldiers. Israel lost that war; Iran installed and trained Hezbollah.

Arm how about the 6 day war?


Israel took on

Egypt
Syria
Jordan
Iraq
Saudi Arabia
Morocco
Algeria
Tunisia
Sudan


500,000 + troops

about 1k aircraft

and over 2k tanks.

They broke their will and destroyed their air forces in only 6 days.


In a conventional war compared to an insurgency and occupation Israel is very efficient.

Israel would never try to occupy Iran as they arn't idiots, they would do it through small Special forces strikes air raids and missile attacks.

 

[Strife212]

We must remember that The US only attacks countries that do not not have weapons of mass destruction, hence North Korea is never threatened.....

North Korea could level most of South Korea before things got started, thats the issue.

 

[Tefal]

The main reason North Korea is never threatened probably has more to do with it's rather friendly northern neighbour than it's limited nuclear ability.

That and the very well fortified artillery pointed at Seoul.

 

[meghatronic]

That and the very well fortified artillery pointed at Seoul.

Indeed. NK has the largest artillery force in the world. They could easily flatten Seoul within the hour. Eerie being there to be honest.

 

[Tefal]

Indeed. NK has the largest artillery force in the world. They could easily flatten Seoul within the hour. Eerie being there to be honest.

to be fair though America/Russia/uk could flatten half the world in a couple of hours

 

[meghatronic]

to be fair though America/Russia/uk could flatten half the world in a couple of hours

Couple being the operative word!

It's a shame, Korea is a beautiful country.

 

[Muzy]

Arm how about the 6 day war?


Israel took on

Egypt
Syria
Jordan
Iraq
Saudi Arabia
Morocco
Algeria
Tunisia
Sudan


500,000 + troops

about 1k aircraft

and over 2k tanks.

They broke their will and destroyed their air forces in only 6 days.


In a conventional war compared to an insurgency and occupation Israel is very efficient.

Israel would never try to occupy Iran as they arn't idiots, they would do it through small Special forces strikes air raids and missile attacks.

Arabs lost that war because of inside government treaters. Example, as I recall from history books, The Iraqi Army destroyed Israel in Syria; the Israel gov then bribed, or paid or something like that the Iraqi gov to stop their army from advancing inside Israel. Bottom line, lets not compare 40 years ago with present Iran. Lets not compare Arabs with Iran.

As of

Israel would never try to occupy Iran as they arn't idiots, they would do it through small Special forces strikes air raids and missile attacks.

Agree,

-Iran owns advance technology in missile. Last week they announced superior missile to the S300. Today, Iran announces acquisition system capable of changing direction of missiles.

 

[Chives]

Iran is scared. It has U.S troops on its border and no powerful allies in the middle east to help them.

 

[Tefal]

Arabs lost that war because of inside government treaters. Example, as I recall from history books, The Iraqi Army destroyed Israel in Syria; the Israel gov then bribed, or paid or something like that the Iraqi gov to stop their army from advancing inside Israel. Bottom line, lets not compare 40 years ago with present Iran. Lets not compare Arabs with Iran.

They won because they completely destroyed their air forces in a preemntive strike.

iirc Iraq stopped moving it's armoured convoys because they would get destroyed by the uncontested Israeli air force in strafing runs.
As of

-Iran owns advance technology in missile. Last week they announced superior missile to the S300. Today, Iran announces acquisition system capable of changing direction of missiles.

Israel owns better technology + mar more advanced fighters + air to air missiles + air to ground missiles + uavs + anti runway missiles + they are deploying a missile defence system.

They would destroy Iran's military.

That and if all else fails Israel and nuke + gas the Iranians from home with accurate missiles while Iran has just about figured out how to redirect a missile in flight, go them.

 

[Naffa]

They won because they completely destroyed their air forces in a preemntive strike.

If you're talking about the Israeli bombing of Iraqi airbases, it's worth noting that this is something Iran had been trying to do for years but had been unable to achieve.

 

[Muzy]

They won because they completely destroyed their air forces in a preemntive strike.

iirc Iraq stopped moving it's armoured convoys because they would get destroyed by the uncontested Israeli air force in strafing runs.
As of



Israel owns better technology + mar more advanced fighters + air to air missiles + air to ground missiles + uavs + anti runway missiles + they are deploying a missile defence system.

They would destroy Iran's military.

Yes Israel achieved advancement in every sector of militery more than any country in the world with the help of USA+ others, yet they couldn't destroy hezbollah with their 1980s weapons.

Instead, Israel destroyed buildings, hotels, news channel offices, houses, bridges, electricity generators...etc

The only way to stop Iran is to use a Nuke. With this move you will give the green light to every country who own a nuke, to use it at war.

 

[RDM]

Yes Israel achieved advancement in every sector of militery more than any country in the world with the help of USA+ others, yet they couldn't destroy hezbollah with their 1980s weapons.

Well, they could have done, but it would have been even worse than the destruction that was wrought.

 

[AMDPower]

If you're talking about the Israeli bombing of Iraqi airbases, it's worth noting that this is something Iran had been trying to do for years but had been unable to achieve.

lol



http://iiaf.net/stories/warstories/s1.html

Al-Wallid air base on the Baghdad-Amman highway close to Jordanian border, part of H-3 complex

look that up on a map, if you are not sure where it is.

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osirak

Further information: Operation Opera
Although most agreed that Iraq was years away from being able to build a nuclear weapon, the Iranians and the Israelis felt any raid must occur well before nuclear fuel was loaded to prevent radioactive contamination. Further, Israel's Menachem Begin feared that Israel's next elected government would not act until a nuclear weapon was created[citation needed].

Iran attacked and damaged the site on September 30, 1980 with two F-4 Phantoms, shortly after the outbreak of the Iran-Iraq War. This was the first attack on a nuclear reactor and only the third on a nuclear facility in history of the world. It was also the first instance of a pre-emptive attack on a nuclear reactor to forestall the development of a nuclear weapon, though it did not achieve its objective as France repaired the reactor after the Iranian attack.[8][9][10][11][12]

In Israel, intelligence agencies authorized an air strike based on the fear that Iraq would use the nuclear fuel to produce weapons. This took place on June 7, 1981, in what was known as Operation Opera. The Israeli Air Force launched a strike with eight F-16 multi-role fighters and six F-15s for escorts, which flew from Etzion Airbase.

Shortly after that, the northern Sinai base was vacated and returned to Egypt in accordance with the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. At the time, Etzion was Israel's southernmost airbase - the closest it had to Iraq. The strike force flew 680 miles (1,100 km) across Jordan, Saudi Arabia and into Iraq to bomb the target. Arriving at around 1730, the strike force quickly destroyed the reactor site and returned safely to Israel. Ten Iraqi soldiers and one French researcher were killed in the attack.[13] It was supposed that the strike force evaded detection by flying close together so that instead of appearing as a squadron of small fighters on radar, they appeared as a single large jet, and not much attention was given to them.

One of the Israeli pilots on the mission was Ilan Ramon, who would later become Israel's first astronaut and died in the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster on February 1, 2003.[14]

 

[Orcish-Horde]

Yes Israel achieved advancement in every sector of military more than any country in the world with the help of USA+ others, yet they couldn't destroy hezbollah with their 1980s weapons.

Instead, Israel destroyed buildings, hotels, news channel offices, houses, bridges, electricity generators...etc

The only way to stop Iran is to use a Nuke. With this move you will give the green light to every country who own a nuke, to use it at war.

The US could just do to every town and city in Iran that what Berlin got in 1945. The war would be over in 6 months, a little bit of total war and it would be the last of the middle easts saber rattling. Its what they should have done in Iraq, if they had there would not have been a noise from Iran or NK.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Do you know anything about 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict ? Hezbollah used 800-2000 Soldiers against 38,000+ israeli soldiers. Israel lost that war; Iran installed and trained Hezbollah.

You can't use that example solely against Israel, who have the most capable military in the middle east.

Standing armies always have difficulty fighting guerilla forces as history has shown such as the Boer War of 1899-1901. Over 500,000 British troops could not defeat a Boer guerilla force that rarely numbered over 25,000 until the British turned to blockhouses, scorched earth and concentration camps.

The same goes for the US in Vietnam, Coalition forces in Afghanistan etc.