Iron - Google Chrome without the "spyware"!

mr.sly · 12 Nov 2008 at 14:18

m4cc45 said:
I don't think you're quite getting it.

When you do this in say... a well known Jersey website or an online auction site it suggests based on that it doesn't actually store the information (well when I last looked at the T&C's it didn't so if it has changed now then apologies).

Google are openly saying they'll store and use this information which is, surely, a very bad thing. From that data they can, in the future, aim adverts at you based on your history (i.e. phorm like crap), give you a blow-by-blow account of your browsing history, etc. remember even if you don't go to a website it's still being recorded.

I personally will not touch Chrome with a big stick.

M.

They do aim adverts at you already. :confused:

Put down the David Icke book, take off the tin foil hat and step away from the computer. Because they're all after you!

Eddie · 12 Nov 2008 at 14:27

Just installed Iron myself - seems alright nice and quick

willhub · 12 Nov 2008 at 17:04

Seems abit faster than Google Chrome for me, and 2 problems I have with Chrome are not in Iron too

Goksly · 12 Nov 2008 at 20:33

I don't understand why people care so much. As long as someone isn't going to steal my identity I don't care as long as the software I use is fast and reliable.

Pulse · 12 Nov 2008 at 21:10

After one day of use I've found some problems..

1. After select a different tab and moving down over my bookmarks when I stop moving my mouse, the information for the bookmark I went over is displayed where my mouse has stopped, so over which ever page I'm viewing.
2. It has a problem playing some videos. It will complain about a DLL several times before failing to load a video.

Dogoid · 14 Nov 2008 at 18:27

m4cc45 said:
I don't think you're quite getting it.

When you do this in say... a well known Jersey website or an online auction site it suggests based on that it doesn't actually store the information (well when I last looked at the T&C's it didn't so if it has changed now then apologies).

Google are openly saying they'll store and use this information which is, surely, a very bad thing. From that data they can, in the future, aim adverts at you based on your history (i.e. phorm like crap), give you a blow-by-blow account of your browsing history, etc. remember even if you don't go to a website it's still being recorded.

I personally will not touch Chrome with a big stick.

M.

ads are aimed at you just sitting in front of the telly, the only difference with this is, the ads google aims at you is relevant to your interests.

Ratbag · 14 Nov 2008 at 18:51

Call me paranoid, but the fact the bar stewards know my interests vaguely alarms me.....

Mattus · 14 Nov 2008 at 19:00

All this seems like tin-foil hat stuff to me. Why would anybody at Google personally care what I'm searching for? If it's to serve me targeted advertising, then frankly I'd rather see targeted ads than non-targeted ads! Google conducts billions of searches every month. Why would anyone care about yours?

tolien said:
* When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or URLs you may be looking for.

... OK, that's necessary for the suggest feature to work. Is there any evidence that Google is actually SAVING that information, rather than just using it to retain instantaneous search results?

james.miller · 14 Nov 2008 at 19:07

that is no different to the google search bar in firefox, right? i mean, it does the same thing!

Ratbag · 14 Nov 2008 at 19:19

Mattus said:
... OK, that's necessary for the suggest feature to work. Is there any evidence that Google is actually SAVING that information, rather than just using it to retain instantaneous search results?

Yes there is evidence. A quick google search on 'google chrome privacy' or similar will reveal all.

I actually don't see ANY ads or popups due to the senses-shattering power of admuncher, but I still don't want to do google any favours.

Bossk128 · 14 Nov 2008 at 19:45

Dogoid said:
ads are aimed at you just sitting in front of the telly, the only difference with this is, the ads google aims at you is relevant to your interests.

Assuming you watch the ads, with any decent PVR these days you can skip past them in a few seconds.

tolien · 14 Nov 2008 at 20:13

james.miller said:
that is no different to the google search bar in firefox, right? i mean, it does the same thing!

You don't usually enter URLs in the Firefox search box.

james.miller · 14 Nov 2008 at 20:35

tolien said:
You don't usually enter URLs in the Firefox search box.

no, but if you do it gives you suggestions the same as it does with any other word you enter. whether its to quite the same scope or not i dont know, but nobody complained before chrome came along?

The_Abyss · 14 Nov 2008 at 21:25

No way Chrome is going anywhere near my PC.

Google are a public listed company, yet whilst they continue to deliver the profits and revnue that they do, nobody cares what they are working on. Look at all the ventures they suddenly release without warning to public or importantly stockholders.

A dangerous precedent to keep following 'the crowd'. Stick your tin foil up your **** - I'd just rather not jump on the bandwagon, and if my web page loads 0.001 seconds slower as a result, I'll suffer it.

tolien · 14 Nov 2008 at 21:28

james.miller said:
no, but if you do it gives you suggestions the same as it does with any other word you enter. whether its to quite the same scope or not i dont know, but nobody complained before chrome came along?

The point is there's only one box in Chrome.

james.miller · 14 Nov 2008 at 21:56

tolien said:
The point is there's only one box in Chrome.

no, the point was chrome was sending the info back to google, the same info the search box that just about everybody uses in firefox sends!

tolien · 14 Nov 2008 at 21:58

You can disable it in both, so it doesn't make a whole lot of odds either way.

james.miller said:
no, the point was chrome was sending the info back to google, the same info the search box that just about everybody uses in firefox sends!

No, the point is you have to type URLs in the same box in Chrome, which it'll also send to Google, versus only search suggestions in Firefox...

Dolph · 14 Nov 2008 at 22:03

james.miller said:
no, the point was chrome was sending the info back to google, the same info the search box that just about everybody uses in firefox sends!

And the bigger point is that Chrome sends everything you type into it, not just everything in a box. (The box in FF sends no more information than going to google.co.uk and intiating your search there.)