Ignoring the price difference, comparing the i5 3570k to the i7 3770K for gaming I know the i7 has hyperthreading good for video editing. I guess what I really want to know is if using the i7 3770k for gaming does it bring any negative aspects to gaming compared to the i5 3570k ?
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irrespective of price i5 3570k vs i7 3770K
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Nothing negative no, you'll be hard pushed to find a game whereby enabling HT actually hinders performance (though there will be the odd one I guess).
It helps when you want to go SLI/CF to give the processor some breathing space, games can have better performance on the 3770k compared to the 3570k as programmers are beginning to utilise more than four cores. It's also useful when playing MMORPGs or huge games such as Rome Total War.
I moved from the 3570k and I fully recommend it for multi-gpu setups.
It helps when you want to go SLI/CF to give the processor some breathing space, games can have better performance on the 3770k compared to the 3570k as programmers are beginning to utilise more than four cores. It's also useful when playing MMORPGs or huge games such as Rome Total War.
I moved from the 3570k and I fully recommend it for multi-gpu setups.
There are no negative aspects to performance with HT. But if you somehow find a game that suffers with HT, like BF3 did for the 1st month or so before they fixed it, you can always just turn it off. Personally I'd rather have it and not use it all the time, than not have it at all.
Another consideration is that HT provides additional resource for back ground apps. For instance FRAPS, browsers (Chrome, Firefox etc), Teamspeak, Steam, Origin, Winamp, Video, etc. All these programs spawn threads and are often running in the background during gaming. So even if your game doesn't directly benefit from HT, it might still benefit indirectly.
Another consideration is that HT provides additional resource for back ground apps. For instance FRAPS, browsers (Chrome, Firefox etc), Teamspeak, Steam, Origin, Winamp, Video, etc. All these programs spawn threads and are often running in the background during gaming. So even if your game doesn't directly benefit from HT, it might still benefit indirectly.
You get warranty on all the parts you purchase anyway, pre-built would be my choice but the costs just aren't worth it. I priced up my rig pre-built and it came in 3-4 hundred more than building it myself, crazy.
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Although there isnt much difference presently in games inparticular between the 3570k and the 3770k, if you are going to use your computer for anything other than just games, you might as well get the 3770k.
Better tho, if you already have a decent setup is to wait for Haswell.
Do I regret my 3570k over the 3770k? Nope, becuase even now all current games even those which stress the CPU hard such as Crysis 3 which is a next gen game, minimum frames are more or less the same between the 3570k and the 3770k and the average frames delivered by the 3570k are up high enough to drive high end GPU's.
Better tho, if you already have a decent setup is to wait for Haswell.
Do I regret my 3570k over the 3770k? Nope, becuase even now all current games even those which stress the CPU hard such as Crysis 3 which is a next gen game, minimum frames are more or less the same between the 3570k and the 3770k and the average frames delivered by the 3570k are up high enough to drive high end GPU's.
I think the haswell looks to be a bit more of a *step* Intel are renowned for 'not doing much' between generations but it looks like their may actually be a nice little performance leap between the 4000k series and the 3000k series
How many games use HT though? Just Battlefield 3 or 4 springs to mind.
And considering the playstation 4 has an AMD APU what are the consequences of this for intel and thier HT lineup like 3770k?
Would we see a jump to using 8 real cores over currently using around 4 and using HT to simulate 8 cores? It will be interesting i guess.Im hoping HT dies and my 3570k does not make me regret it
And considering the playstation 4 has an AMD APU what are the consequences of this for intel and thier HT lineup like 3770k?
Would we see a jump to using 8 real cores over currently using around 4 and using HT to simulate 8 cores? It will be interesting i guess.Im hoping HT dies and my 3570k does not make me regret it
Haswell I can tell you now is the same die process as Ivy. Just with solder a new socket type and a few other slight "increases" to performance that are rather worthless in all retrospect. I think Intel have actually now gone "we should stop going smaller and actually work on adding proper features"
How many games use HT though? Just Battlefield 3 or 4 springs to mind.
And considering the playstation 4 has an AMD APU what are the consequences of this for intel and thier HT lineup like 3770k?
Would we see a jump to using 8 real cores over currently using around 4 and using HT to simulate 8 cores? It will be interesting i guess.Im hoping HT dies and my 3570k does not make me regret it
You'll never regret it. The fact that the consoles have 8 cores means nothing really. The 8 cores in the consoles will literally be slower than 2 of your cores (when I say 2 of them I mean the fact that if you could have 2 cores of an i5 working in the way that consoles work, no background process' etc they would possibly be faster) but because they only do the one thing it means that they are being more efficient in what they are doing. It also means that games are finally going to start to use multi threading properly. And trust me, multi threading games is a *****.
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I'm picking up my Intel Core i5 3570 non-K today (my first Core i5 ever) and I'm a bit excited to see how fares against my Core i7 3930K and AMD Phenom II X6 1090T (which both are hexa cores 
I always viewed Hyper Threading as something as a nice bonus, but not a real deal breaker as such.
I always viewed Hyper Threading as something as a nice bonus, but not a real deal breaker as such.
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I have been wondering this too, but to be honest, I am now questioning the sanity of such a wait for Haswell.
6 weeks and it is released, bugs n all, with a few motherboards. But how long before it is refined, bugs ironed out, or we see CPU revisions, or better motherboards for Haswell ?
I am now thinking it is not worth buying such a new CPU straight away, but wait till it is established, gained it's reviews podiums, and that there is selective high performing motherboards and system reviews to gauge performance and purchase choices by.
Maybe 6 months to a year after release before stable top performance choices of motherboards, CPU's and coolers are available to select from?
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