is 6 cores overkill for a first build?

Dark_Angel · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:06

arknor said:
you havent? because ive seen posts on here where people havent clocked theres that high !

Possibly because they don't feel they need to at the moment, or their CPU coller isn't on right, (or general temp problems) their board / other components, their settings are to blame and so on. I'm not stating for a moment though that every chip will do the 4GHZ, there's always the odd one or two which sucks.

arknor · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:14

Dark_Angel said:
Possibly because they don't feel they need to at the moment, or their CPU coller isn't on right, (or general temp problems) their board / other components, their settings are to blame and so on. I'm not stating for a moment though that every chip will do the 4GHZ, there's always the odd one or two which sucks.

so if someone cant reach 4ghz then its anything but the cpu's problem?

wannabedamned · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:26

It's all down to the chip stepping isnt it as always! As far as I'm aware D0's are pretty much guaranteed 4ghz with the ability to get to 4.2ghz.

C0 Steppings struggle to get to 4ghz.

Overclocking has always been about getting a decent stepping. I7 -920 doesnt guarantee 4ghz. Hell, Even I7- 920 with a D0 stepping doesnt guarantee it!! Just makes it likely!

Dark_Angel · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:43

Dark_Angel said:
Possibly because they don't feel they need to at the moment, or their CPU coller isn't on right, (or general temp problems) their board / other components, their settings are to blame and so on. I'm not stating for a moment though that every chip will do the 4GHZ, there's always the odd one or two which sucks.

arknor said:
so if someone cant reach 4ghz then its anything but the cpu's problem?

Clearly you've missed the point where I agree with you that there's some which obviously can't clock to 4GHZ because it's the chip.

Stop being so defensive.

*EDIT*

Though to be fair, I could possibly have worded it better.

Dark_Angel · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:46

wannabedamned said:
It's all down to the chip stepping isnt it as always! As far as I'm aware D0's are pretty much guaranteed 4ghz with the ability to get to 4.2ghz.

C0 Steppings struggle to get to 4ghz.

Overclocking has always been about getting a decent stepping. I7 -920 doesnt guarantee 4ghz. Hell, Even I7- 920 with a D0 stepping doesnt guarantee it!! Just makes it likely!

Also this.

I was mearly pointing out that since we're not sat there trying to help a person out, or knowing the reasons, we simply can't know the true percentage which can actually make the "4GHZ goalpost".

Willie Sawyer · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:51

errm as this is my first build, i don't think i'd overclock off the bat, i'd give it a couple of months and sum of research before i do it

Dark_Angel · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:55

Willie Sawyer said:
errm as this is my first build, i don't think i'd overclock off the bat, i'd give it a couple of months and sum of research before i do it

To be fair, overclocking is pretty simple unless you're looking to go for the bleeding edge. I'm not saying you should do it, mearly that it's not that hard to do mild overclocks. Basically revolving around increasing FSB.

Willie Sawyer · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:56

Dark_Angel said:
To be fair, overclocking is pretty simple unless you're looking to go for the bleeding edge. I'm not saying you should do it, mearly that it's not that hard to do mild overclocks. Basically revolving around increasing FSB.

i understand and im not totally against it but i don't wanna do it the day i put the system together, last thing i attempted to overclock ended up in a smoking mess... was a laptop though haha

gareth170 · 14 Jul 2010 at 13:59

tbh it's how heathly the cores are. not about the stepping. well atleast not with amd...

easyrider · 14 Jul 2010 at 14:03

All 930's will do 4ghz

I even managed 4ghz with a C0 920.

But I am easyrider afterall.

Willie Sawyer · 14 Jul 2010 at 14:25

This be any good as a build??

any little upgrades etc. i can go for maybe the GPU??

Marvin · 14 Jul 2010 at 14:58

I'd go for a GTX460 to be honest. (The 1GB model). You get quite a lot of extra performance for only £20 more.

Only thing then would be the MB you've chosen can't do SLI, so I'd look around for a Asus M4N98TD Evo, shouldn't take you long to find one in stock in the UK for £95.02...

May need an optical drive too...

Oh, and I'd go for a Samsung F3 or WD Caviar Black 500GB HDD over the Seagate (think the F3 costs the same).

Otherwise, good to go!

Marvin · 14 Jul 2010 at 15:00

Oh and I'd probably change the PSU for this one. It'll give you more headroom if you decide to go SLI later.

Willie Sawyer · 14 Jul 2010 at 15:05

Marvin said:
I'd go for a GTX460 to be honest. (The 1GB model). You get quite a lot of extra performance for only £20 more.

Only thing then would be the MB you've chosen can't do SLI, so I'd look around for a Asus M4N98TD Evo, shouldn't take you long to find one in stock in the UK for £95.02...

May need an optical drive too...

Oh, and I'd go for a Samsung F3 or WD Caviar Black 500GB HDD over the Seagate (think the F3 costs the same).

Otherwise, good to go!

whats SLI??

NathWraith · 14 Jul 2010 at 15:09

Willie Sawyer said:
whats SLI??

SLI = Scalable Link Interface

An interface which Nvidia use to link two or more of their GPUs together for perfomance.

So basically combining the power of two seperate cards as one.

Willie Sawyer · 14 Jul 2010 at 15:16

NathWraith said:
SLI = Scalable Link Interface

An interface which Nvidia use to link two or more of their GPUs together for perfomance.

So basically combining the power of two seperate cards as one.

does ati's have an alternative?? crossfire??

easyrider · 14 Jul 2010 at 15:23

Willie Sawyer said:
does ati's have an alternative?? crossfire??

Yes crossfire.

Depending on the res you play at. One faster card is usually the direction to take over two " middle" cards.

easyrider · 14 Jul 2010 at 15:29

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Muel · 14 Jul 2010 at 16:39

easyrider said:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD502HJ) £39.99

I bought this yesterday for £49 when it was the special offer of the week, shame you missed it.

Double the capacity and it's faster, and only costs £17 more than the one you chose. I'd go up a step if I were you.

I've just moved from an F1 320gb, from the benchmarks I've found the F3 1tb is 53% faster. :S Can't really believe that tbh, I think the results are warped.