Is a 2.2 degree the end of the world??

[D.P.]

If I'm working ~14 hours a day (no breaks) to ensure a decent degree, theres absolutely no reason why you couldn't either.

Put some mental back bone into it

Exactly, I got my First by working 12-14 hours 6-7 days a week in the final year, 10-12 hours a day 5-6 days in the 3rd.

 

[Lord_Kokain]

I was wondering, does it matter if one has 50.5% overal and,say, 59% if both are 2.2?(Also likewise for the other grade classes)

 

[RandomTom]

I was wondering, does it matter if one has 50.5% overal and,say, 59% if both are 2.2?(Also likewise for the other grade classes)

That's how every grade works; doesn't matter what you get. But uni wise;

1:1 70%+
2:1 60%-69.9%
2:2 50%-59.9%
3rd 40%-49.9%
Fail.

 

[helpimcrap]

until it's physically impossible to get the 2:1 keep aiming for it!



note i have no degree

 

[Nitefly]

You don't.

I'm attempting to get a 1st but it really does require that effort. Saying that I'm fairly obscessive with revision compared to most

I also did not do research earlier in the year (I was busy with various projects, and if I'm being honest there were periods of inactivity), so I have to play 'catch up' somewhat compared to the more 'efficient' creme de la creme of the class.

By the way, which year are you in? I hear that second year is a doddle... but third year is really tough.

how the hell can you manage that!?

By being completely insane

 

[[TW]Fox]

Exactly, I got my First by working 12-14 hours 6-7 days a week in the final year, 10-12 hours a day 5-6 days in the 3rd.

I'd rather have a 2.1 than ruin my Uni experience by doing that.

 

[Nitefly]

I'd rather have a 2.1 than ruin my Uni experience by doing that.

Oh, by no means does such work mean you are a social slouch. Simply put, before exams I don't see the point in not 'maxing' out.

 

[Lord_Kokain]

That's how every grade works; doesn't matter what you get. But uni wise;

1:1 70%+
2:1 60%-69.9%
2:2 50%-59.9%
3rd 40%-49.9%
Fail.

I know the grade boundaries but I was asking if it would matter for job/masters.

 

[Nitefly]

I know the grade boundaries but I was asking if it would matter for job/masters.

A 2:1 is generally considered as a good degree and would enable access to most masters programmes.

 

[Majago]

I was wondering, does it matter if one has 50.5% overal and,say, 59% if both are 2.2?(Also likewise for the other grade classes)

In real terms, no difference at all. All the prospective employer would know is that you've got a 2:2 - they wouldn't know / care whether you got 50.5% or 59% however fair or otherwise that may seem.

 

[neocon]

Becoming an investment banker with a 2.2 is highly unlikely though there are plenty of other roles in investment banks. Back office/operations might still be worth a shot - reasonably well paid considering the role though a bit mundane.

a recruitment consultant told me that a lot of the people at Barcap don't even have degrees, but went ot private school

its more who you know than what you know

ive got a 2:2 and work in the backoffice anyway, i work with people who have higher degree clasifications than me, but they can't do the job any better, infact they are often worse

 

[leaskovski]

I got a desmond, and Ive got a good job. There is hope for you yet. Just don't drink yourself into a hole from sobbing about it.

 

[Vegetarian]

I got an 2:2 Honours degree - I just put down BA(hons) on all aplications and in 10 years since leaving uni no one has asked what grade I have!

 

[dowie]

I wouldn't believe everything recruiters tell you. I'd wager that there probably are quite a few people in sales and trading without degrees but less so in investment banking and in any case most of the people without degrees have probably been around for a while. Its far tougher to get into these days - certainly nepotism is still prevalent in some places but these days HR is stricter and there is a lot of competition for investment banking and other front office roles. For someone to get a job based on some old school tie connection would require someone very senior (global head of XYZ etc..) most hiring managers in banks still have to get approval from HR.

As for the back office thing - thats sort of my point behind why it is a good option - tis a fairly mundane job (no offence intended) but is well paid and can in some cases lead to other things. Good option to pursue for someone with a 2.2 especially if you're motivate to perform better than your peers and get yourself noticed.

 

[neocon]

I wouldn't believe everything recruiters tell you. I'd wager that there probably are quite a few people in sales and trading without degrees but less so in investment banking and in any case most of the people without degrees have probably been around for a while. Its far tougher to get into these days - certainly nepotism is still prevalent in some places but these days HR is stricter and there is a lot of competition for investment banking and other front office roles. For someone to get a job based on some old school tie connection would require someone very senior (global head of XYZ etc..) most hiring managers in banks still have to get approval from HR.

As for the back office thing - thats sort of my point behind why it is a good option - tis a fairly mundane job (no offence intended) but is well paid and can in some cases lead to other things. Good option to pursue for someone with a 2.2 especially if you're motivate to perform better than your peers and get yourself noticed.

Sure, very hard to get a F/O role especially with all foreign talent in London too.

Are you a backoffice monkey?

 

[Lord_Kokain]

In real terms, no difference at all. All the prospective employer would know is that you've got a 2:2 - they wouldn't know / care whether you got 50.5% or 59% however fair or otherwise that may seem.

Thanks for the input! I was asking because it sort of interests me personally. I currently stand within the 60s in percentage terms(unless I totally mess up my last three exams) and I was wondering if its that much worth giving myself a bit of pressure and pursue the high end of the 2.1(cant get to 1st though) or take it easy and make sure I end up around the 61-63% margin.

 

[uknowist]

 

[Azagoth]

I got an 2:2 Honours degree - I just put down BA(hons) on all aplications and in 10 years since leaving uni no one has asked what grade I have!

Exactly the same here! Not once have I been asked the grade, and I do the same as you, put down nothing but BSc(Hons).

 

[tntcoder]

I got an 2:2 Honours degree - I just put down BA(hons) on all aplications and in 10 years since leaving uni no one has asked what grade I have!

Out of curiousity, do many employees actually bother to verify degrees, alevels etc that people put on CVs?

 

[Lord_Kokain]

Exactly the same here! Not once have I been asked the grade, and I do the same as you, put down nothing but BSc(Hons).

are u sure that the nature of the job is such that they arent that much bothered about the grade?