is a IPS screen worth it for gaming??

johnrs

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Hi,

Sorry of this has been asked before.

I have almost ready to order some new parts for a gaming PC and I am a little stuck between a standard 24" 1920x1200 monitor and the Dell 24" Ultrasharp U2410

Would be great full for some views on this and sorry if this has been asked before.

Cheers
 
Well, I have an HP LP2475w, but I suppose it is close enough.

I would say on the whole, yes it is worth it for gaming. I don't have a lot of games that I play on the PC, but from what I have seen, there is a noticeable difference.

Funnily enough, the biggest difference I have seen is when playing WOW. Obviously the graphics are never going to impress, but the colours are amazing. The first time I saw the forests on fire, I was blown away by the colour and vividness of the flames.
 
Thanks for that.

Its either an i5 with the Dell 24" Ultrasharp or and i7 with a standard 24" monitor

This whole getting a new PC thing is driving me nuts as I keep swapping about my config to fit within my budget
 
I know what you mean, I tend to stress over purchases for a while too.

My reasoning for my screen is that I spend a lot of time staring at it.

If you add the fact that I tend to keep my screens for a long time, then it makes sense to get the best I could afford.
 
Depends what games you play, for the likes of WoW, eve online, the sims, etc. perfectly fine.

For twitch shooters like MW2, BC2, etc. then your better off going for a TN panel - there are some good IPS/PVA panels for gaming - but you really really need to research it - a lot of them have bad input lag or residual image problems that really really doesn't go with gaming very well.

If your serious about FPS games, etc. then you really really want a 120Hz panel like the samsung 2233rz - in comparison to almost any IPS/PVA panel for fast paced games theres just no comparison they are so much better.
 
Thanks. I do play eve online, and quite a bit of COD and BF BD2 too

So I guess a IPS is not great for that.. Ideally looking for a 24" with a res of 1920x1200 if poss. Any suggestions.

Cheers for the advice
 
Always goof to hear from someone that either got one or seen one. Reviews are good, but dont always tell you what you need to know.

Thanks for the quick replies
 
How much are you looking to spend? unfortunatly not much choice with 120Hz at ~24" and a lot of money for what is still a TN panel.

I'm still somewhat blown away by my samsung 2233rz tho - almost doubled my "normal" kinda scores in games like MW2 compared to my previous 60Hz panel and the blacks are gorgeous - I don't think I've seen any panel of any type thats as good... color isn't bad either when calibrated* - tho unfortunatly when side by side with my true 8bit color 60Hz panel the dither on the 2233 is noticeable if you look for it.



* I still wouldn't reccomend it for serious image editing/media use where color accuracy is important tho.
 
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Just been looking into the Samsung 24" and it seems to get getting some good reviews. Mean now I an factor in my SSD that I wanted :)
 
Some people are really hellbent on putting down TN panels and preaching the superiority of IPS panels. At this point I would like to point out that I have considerable experience with all sorts of panel types - CRT, plasma, LED, OLED, LCD (TN, PVA, S-PVA IPS and S-IPS). I therefore can say, with a broad and impartial voice; the panel type is not the be all and end all of image quality attributes.

I could harp on all day about how beautiful OLED screens are compared to any LCD panel I've come across and how they will change the world, but in truth you'll only get your hands on worth using these days by raiding the R&D factories of Samsung. What I could not harp on about all day are the advantages an S-IPS panel gives you, for games, over a good TN panel like the Samsung SM2433BW. It is true that the colour accuracy is slightly off on the SM2433BW (especially if you pass your head too far from centre); but this is only something you need to concern yourself with if you rely on accurate colours and it is not something you should notice or care about as a gamer.

I would also like to point out that a properly implemented LED backlight (so far I would say that Samsung are the only manufacturer to impress me on that front) can make a huge diffence to colour gradients and accuracy. I haven't done anything like a side-by-side comparison, but in my testing with collegues the XL2370 (TN panel) offers pretty accurate colours after a very small amount of calibration. The successor to this (PX2370) should hit UK retail next month and will hopefully offer very pleasing colours in the sRGB photography mode.
 
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It is true that the colour accuracy is slightly off on the SM2433BW (especially if you pass your head too far from centre); but this is only something you need to concern yourself with if you rely on accurate colours and it is not something you should notice or care about as a gamer.
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So 'gamers' don't care if the blue sky in their game is rendered as purple by a TN panel? Or gradients appearing where there shouldn't be any? I have to disagree, strongly. Poor image quality has a negative impact on most types of game, bar perhaps some particularly frenetic FPSs.

but in my testing with collegues the XL2370 (TN panel) offers pretty accurate colours after a very small amount of calibration.
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I've often wondered why people bother calibrating a TN, it's an exercise in self-delusion. The best you can hope for is a small patch in the centre of the the screen where the colour is reasonably accurate (or as accurate as it's possible to get on a panel that has to fake 97% of the shades produced by the graphics card), TN's viewing angle problems mean there's no hope of anything off-centre being even vaguely accurate.

No amount of calibration, not the best calibrator in the world, nor any kind of backlight, can stop TN turning blue into purple, red into pink, and solid colours into gradients.
 
I have never seen blue sky rendered as purple unless I'm standing above the monitor or well off to one side or the other, there is some dithering on some granted but I never really notice it in gaming, the better response and less residual image problems far out balance that any how.

Both my TN panels benefit from calibration - the 2233rz is somewhat blue bias out the box, sure if your not very close to dead center you do get some change to the brightness but you have to move quite a way out on any modern TN before you see hue shift.
 
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