thanks for replies.
havent got my eyes on anything yet, i have seen a chiftec bundle with pico and adapter for £90 odd on the zon, but having trouble finding specs to see if the stock 80mm cooler will fit.
i have:
sempron 3850
2x2gb kingston 1333mhz ram
64gb kingspec ssd
250gb wdb hdd
cx450w
in my elite 110 case
the purpose of the small case with pico/built in is to make it a travel option over buying a laptop or a nuc, so only the ssd or a larger one will be used and maybe up to 8gb ram if i can be bothered, so under 50w of power id imagine?