I highly recommend you go and check one out in person first.
I did and it made all the difference - I didnt end up placing an order for one.
In person it looks even more silly than in the photos, like some cheap plastic toy. I cannot stress enough how cheap and tacky the finish is. The soft touch adds some elegance but ultimately it's wasted as a) it's not a very good execution of the soft touch, b) everything else around it looks so bad
The keyboard is also very poor imho, far too little depress and far too much resistance. Plus for a 17" laptop the keys are a little thin and small.
The display was very poor and extremely reflective. Even on the brightest setting there was still far too much reflection in a not even brightly lit room.
And finally, it sounds like a jet turbine when the fans are on max.
thanks for the advice, i know the 17" is a bit to big for my liking really as my monitor on my PC is 19" and i cudnt imagian a laptop tht big. i really would like the 14/15 is and my bro has the 11 and tht is too small for me haha