Is Amir Khan getting too big? + all things Khan vs Canelo
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For me the only way Amir wins is if he jumps on Canelo from the start and out boxes him for 12 rounds. I think the focus should be on speed, movement and stamina.
If the Kahn game plan is to even remotely consider going toe to toe, somebody has made a terrible mistake or taken a massive gamble in what for me should be looked at as a make or break fight for Kahn's future. A loss to Canelo at super welterweight and I think Kahn will remain to be seen as a decent, but second rate fighter.
If the Kahn game plan is to even remotely consider going toe to toe, somebody has made a terrible mistake or taken a massive gamble in what for me should be looked at as a make or break fight for Kahn's future. A loss to Canelo at super welterweight and I think Kahn will remain to be seen as a decent, but second rate fighter.
I think Kahn badly needs to string together five wins to get back on track. A loss at super welterweight against Canelo will just confirm he's not a top flight fighter.
If he gets beat at this weight then the only way I can see to regain creditability is to beat every fighter on the planet at 140-147 or start working on getting up the rankings at super welter/middleweight division.
If he wins then what? Jump in with the likes of Daniel Jacobs, Chris Eubank, Billy Joe Saunders and Gennady Golovkin at 5' 8" and 30 years of age.
If he gets beat at this weight then the only way I can see to regain creditability is to beat every fighter on the planet at 140-147 or start working on getting up the rankings at super welter/middleweight division.
If he wins then what? Jump in with the likes of Daniel Jacobs, Chris Eubank, Billy Joe Saunders and Gennady Golovkin at 5' 8" and 30 years of age.
I don't think moving up to super welterweight makes this any less of a risk to Kahn's reputation. A loss to Canelo at 155 lbs will be just another failed test and as far as I can tell this fight is just about the money.
Kahn's got nothing to offer in the middleweight division, so even a win against Canelo takes him back down to 147 because at 160 fighters will be lining up to hand his arse to him.
After this fight Kahn's got to deal with Thurman, Brook, Porter, Garcia to be taken seriously. Canelo is a top level fighter, but he's not an elite fighter or dominating the division and only a **** hot super welter could challenge him at 155 lbs.
Kahn's got nothing to offer in the middleweight division, so even a win against Canelo takes him back down to 147 because at 160 fighters will be lining up to hand his arse to him.
After this fight Kahn's got to deal with Thurman, Brook, Porter, Garcia to be taken seriously. Canelo is a top level fighter, but he's not an elite fighter or dominating the division and only a **** hot super welter could challenge him at 155 lbs.
Well Kahn should retire if thats his thinking. Non of those fighters are going anywhere so to stay in the welter division Kahn's got to start fighting them.
I'm not sure the Brook fight will always be an option. Brook has already beat Porter and it looks like Spence will be his next fight or the one after that. So Brook is already a long way ahead of Kahn. A win against Spence and Brook is the man at 140-154 lbs. Not to mention it would set him up nicely for the winner of Thurman - Porter and maybe even a shot at Mayweather.
Kahn's claim to fame will be I fought Canelo. A win against Canelo, well that just puts Kahn back on track and a choice needs to be made if 147 or 154 is the division to go after. Then the real work needs to start with Kahn having 3-4 fights a year.
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Well Spence is now Brook's mandatory for the IBF title. Kahn holds no belts so assuming Brook beats Spence and Kahn moves back down to welter, I think a fight with Kahn would have to come after a unification attempt and be a non title fight.
A win for Brook over Spence and Brook has a lot of options and Kahn can be seen as a fall back fight.
Anyway lets see how Kahn gets on with Canelo first, because Canelo might put Kahn out of action for while.
A win for Brook over Spence and Brook has a lot of options and Kahn can be seen as a fall back fight.
Anyway lets see how Kahn gets on with Canelo first, because Canelo might put Kahn out of action for while.
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I don't understand why there isn't more hype for this fight - it's easily the fight of the year for me. I know 5th May is still a little way off, but I'm not seeing a lot of official promotion and embedded videos on YT like you might see for a Mayweather fight for example.
My heart says Kahn, my heads says Canelo, but surprises happen so who knows? Looking forward to it for sure
I think the problem is the Brook fight never happened. Kahn had a year to get into the ring, but instead sat around getting out of shape when he had the chance to take a meaningful fight that the fans and boxing world wanted. His fan base wants to see him box, not act like a celeb and follow Mayweather around begging for fight that probably know body in the UK is really interested in. The UK has much more exciting fighters like Brook, Fury, Joshua and Saunders. All of them flying around the world and winning world titles.
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Garcia had maybe 20 fights when he fought Kahn and was rated just inside the top 20 IIRC. Garcia is dangerous but nothing special.
I've not said anything about fights being boring. The Garcia fight was exciting, but it wasn't a great boxing contest. Just a pair of noob's slugging it out.
I've not said anything about fights being boring. The Garcia fight was exciting, but it wasn't a great boxing contest. Just a pair of noob's slugging it out.
Nobody has managed to relieve him of his belt and right now Brook is rated higher than Kahn.
Brook is a top level welter and more than a match for any top 10 fighter. He's a world champion with 36 and 0 and 25 KO's. You don't fluke a record like that. I've got to say Brook is possibly the best welter in the world and to call him a nobody is a bit disrespectful to be fair. I don't see how Brook isn't a name that anyone wanting to be seen as an elite level fighter wouldn't want on their record. Especially if your record is mediocre.
Kahn need's to start fighting the best in the welter weight division or move up to 160lbs and start working on getting up the rankings. The Welterweight division will just leave him behind if he continues to take top 20 fights and suffering losses.
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The problem with Khan is he is thick as pig **** and doesn't have a boxing brain.
He's entertaining no doubt about it especially when he gets tagged and puts his hands up pretending he isn't hurt
I have to agree to some extent. I seen an youtube interview with him. One of the questions was about his future fights and he said something along the lines he has no clue what he would be doing after this fight, but when asked about possible fights with welters, Brooks name come up and his reply was he thought the time for that fight has passed and called Brook king of mandatory defences. Thats a stupid thing the say for someone thats spent the last 12 months begging Mayweather and Pacquiao for a fight and then going on to say he still hopes to be mandatory for the WBA Super Lightweight title. Even more so when all Kahn has done is say how it's too much of a struggle to get down 147lbs.
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You have to work for big fights and Kahn's not put that work in.
I'd love to fight for a super middleweight title maybe James DeGale will give me a shot
I might get lucky and KO him to become IBF champ.And so he should. Who's the best?
It seems Kahn size as settled down a lot and he looks more like I would have expected now. The interesting thing is Canleo seems to have dropped some mass too.
Maybe Kahn has got Canelo thinking that he will need to try and match Kahn on speed to some extent. If so that might play a little to Kahn's advantage during the first half of the fight and maybe into the middle rounds. It might also make Canelo a bit more susceptible to the body and Kahn's got all the tools to hurt Canleo as he's usually a very solid body puncher.
Also I've noticed how well drilled Canelo is at covering up for counter shots by keeping his right hand pinned to his cheek when throwing his left hooks. It seems like a bit of a habit (not a bad one to have to be fair) but one that you could take advantage of. If Kahn can throw the left hook to the body with some mustard on it, but avoid planting himself to much to throw with menace he could really take the sting out of Canelo. He's also has a bit of a habit of turning very side on and slightly over extending when throwing big left hooks and crosses. It would be rather difficult to generate power that way with a separated rib.
Any body know what gloves Kahn will be wearing for this fight?
Maybe Kahn has got Canelo thinking that he will need to try and match Kahn on speed to some extent. If so that might play a little to Kahn's advantage during the first half of the fight and maybe into the middle rounds. It might also make Canelo a bit more susceptible to the body and Kahn's got all the tools to hurt Canleo as he's usually a very solid body puncher.
Also I've noticed how well drilled Canelo is at covering up for counter shots by keeping his right hand pinned to his cheek when throwing his left hooks. It seems like a bit of a habit (not a bad one to have to be fair) but one that you could take advantage of. If Kahn can throw the left hook to the body with some mustard on it, but avoid planting himself to much to throw with menace he could really take the sting out of Canelo. He's also has a bit of a habit of turning very side on and slightly over extending when throwing big left hooks and crosses. It would be rather difficult to generate power that way with a separated rib.
Any body know what gloves Kahn will be wearing for this fight?
Khan has been in dreamland for the last 2-3 years. This might make him wake up.