Is Autism a medical issue?

Sliver · 25 Oct 2016 at 12:48

stopper said:
No it isn't, autism is a form of braindamage.
It is a "result" of some thing, and not at all natural.

http://raisingchildren.net.au/articles/autism_spectrum_disorder_causes.html

djxput · 25 Oct 2016 at 12:58

Dis86 said:
Funnily enough i was thinking about autism this morning. Why does it seem to be becoming so much more prevalent?

Going to hit the controversy button here ... (only hopping on your question here Dis86 - saying this for the masses).

It possibly couldn't be caused by vaccines nor mercury fillings or, (heavy metals and other toxins in our environment) ... No ... because that would mean we as a society have been poisoning our children for years...

It has been suggested ... the vaccine program has been increased dramatically in recent years.

For an opinion other then the typical medical model - check out the new movie called Vaxxed
http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

although it might be hard to see here in the UK.

Produced by your own brit doctor Wakefield. Whom was discredited here in the UK when he questioned the link with vaccines and bowl disorders (linking to autism).

anyways ... do your own due diligence when it comes to vaccines.

Pixel · 25 Oct 2016 at 12:59

A friend of mine is convinced that exposing very young children to TV is the sole cause of autism. Something about the fast moving imagery and sounds causing the young brain to overload, and because the child doesn't have the ability to move around easily to get away from the TV, they seek shelter from the abuse within their own mind.

He still lets his kids watch TV.

ttaskmaster · 25 Oct 2016 at 14:39

Pixel said:
A friend of mine is convinced that exposing very young children to TV is the sole cause of autism.

We didn't even get a fridge until I was walking and talking.

I think you'll find it's that satanic devil music, about all the guys and chicks getting their kicks at The Hop...!!!

Pixel · 25 Oct 2016 at 14:43

ttaskmaster said:
We didn't even get a fridge until I was walking and talking.

I think you'll find it's that satanic devil music, about all the guys and chicks getting their kicks at The Hop...!!!

Don't forget those violent WWII novels!

ttaskmaster · 25 Oct 2016 at 14:55

Pixel said:
Don't forget those violent WWII novels!

Ahem.... "Recruitment Leaflets"!

mid_gen · 25 Oct 2016 at 15:22

djxput said:
Going to hit the controversy button here ... (only hopping on your question here Dis86 - saying this for the masses).

It possibly couldn't be caused by vaccines nor mercury fillings or, (heavy metals and other toxins in our environment) ... No ... because that would mean we as a society have been poisoning our children for years...

It has been suggested ... the vaccine program has been increased dramatically in recent years.

For an opinion other then the typical medical model - check out the new movie called Vaxxed
http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

although it might be hard to see here in the UK.

Produced by your own brit doctor Wakefield. Whom was discredited here in the UK when he questioned the link with vaccines and bowl disorders (linking to autism).

anyways ... do your own due diligence when it comes to vaccines.

And anyone that watching 'Vaxxed'...do your due diligence. The guy behind it is a fraud.

After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism,[6] or autism and gastrointestinal disease.[7] A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part,[8] and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.[9] The British General Medical Council (GMC) conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues.[10] The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including that children with autism were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures such as colonoscopies and lumbar punctures,[11] and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children.[12] The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research.[13][14][15] The Lancet fully retracted the 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified.[16] The Lancet's editor-in-chief Richard Horton said the paper was "utterly false" and that the journal had been "deceived".[17] Three months following The Lancet's retraction, Wakefield was struck off the UK medical register, with a statement identifying deliberate falsification in the research published in The Lancet,[18] and was barred from practising medicine in the UK.[19]

Avenged7Fold · 25 Oct 2016 at 15:24

djxput said:
anyways ... do your own due diligence when it comes to vaccines.

I welcome people who believe your crap to not take vaccines, lets just call it a modern form of Darwinism. Though i believe people should be fined for not letting their kids get vaccinated. It should be compulsory. Send all the 'by choice' non vaccinated people to live together and isolate them from others. Let the disease fester and then whither as its food supply is used up.

Anyone with any experience in research knows the data that shows any correlation between vaccines and autism can be disputed by just looking at the other things it correlates with, such as investment into research, frequency of testing and half a dozen other things which would make much more sense.

Really, the surgeon you quoted also was found to have financial interests in discrediting the mmr vaccine and his study seem to be full of procedural errors to fool idiots when they look at his data. His worked was not dismissed completely though and more studies were conducted, NONE found any evidence.

People love to link big pharma with money hungry conspiracy stories but fact is, he was motivated by money to discredit a working vaccine. He lost his license and is no longer allowed to practice medicine.

Even if it did cause autism (which it doesnt) the lack of evidence shows the effect to be so small it is worth the trade. We have essentially eradicated many diseases in the western world due to vaccination that was rampant in the youth of our grandfathers. Infectious and fatal diseases which have claimed more than any war such as TB or have left millions crippled and in pain such as polio, have more or less been stamped out in the west in under a century thanks to mass vaccination.

Ill let you in on a secret; vaccination really works in eradicating disease only when at least almost everyone is vaccinated. By not being vaccinated, you can act as a carrier for other people and it will increase its chance of survival. It is only by mass vaccination that such infectious and prevalent diseases like TB has practically disappeared from here.

There are sketchy deals and drugs are kept secret in big pharma but MMR vaccine has been open for study for years. Not everyone is on big pharma payroll and no real evidence has been found

mid_gen said:
And anyone that watching 'Vaxxed'...do your due diligence. The guy behind it is a fraud.

He should have gotten major prison sentence for the fraud.