Is buying Rtx 4090 now a good idea?

[Gray2233]

I can see why you might be jumpy. When the 2000 series was revealed, suddenly the old flag ship 1080 Ti was in demand and went flying off the shelves.

Given Nvidia's tendency to lock software features behind generation, I'm not so sure the 4090 is going to have the same legacy. We saw that with DLSS between the 3000-4000 series cards, I've no doubt they'll come up with something similar for the 5000.

Poland

US government extends tariff exemption on graphics cards and motherboards for another year

Key PC components are not going to get more expensive.

www.tomshardware.com

The U.S. government has extended the tariff exemptions on graphics cards, motherboards, and even SSDs imported from China for another year, now lasting until May 31, 2025, reports PCMag citing representatives from the U.S. Trade Representative and a new document. This extension contradicts previous indications that Trump-era tariffs on these components would be reinstated.

I do think the US tariffs are going to have a certain effect on the global trade out of China, I don't think it's going to see much change from what we currently see.

In regard to US using them against China: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...usinesses-from-chinas-unfair-trade-practices/

They've been hammering them for years under Biden, it has little to do with Trump at this point and shouldn't even be an argument on any media website other than to incite dodgy political nonsense, and no I'm not pro-Trump.

If I personally was in your position I'd wait at least until the line up and probable MSRP is announced, and that's happening AFAIK in the first week of Jan.

 

[jimhaumman]

Lol. You don't understand how tariffs work

I know how they work,probobaly I overestimate their impact on electronics price hike.

A duty is a specific tax you pay on items you import into your country. It's like a fee for bringing goods from one place to another.
A tariff, on the other hand, is a broader term that includes various types of taxes on imports and exports. It can also refer to rules or rates set by governments to control trade.

 

[jimhaumman]

I would hold fire until the launch of the 5090 (when it actually goes on sale). I would expect used 4090 prices to come down slightly. If the 4090 is indeed more powerful than the 5080, it may be a good used option for those considering that card, however that could potentially keep the used prices stable. It’s all just complete speculation though.

Given the potential for even crazier pricing with the 50xx generation. Used 40xx prices could remain relatively healthy.

Given Nvidia's tendency to lock software features behind generation, I'm not so sure the 4090 is going to have the same legacy. We saw that with DLSS between the 3000-4000 series cards, I've no doubt they'll come up with something similar for the 5000.



I do think the US tariffs are going to have a certain effect on the global trade out of China, I don't think it's going to see much change from what we currently see.

In regard to US using them against China: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...usinesses-from-chinas-unfair-trade-practices/

They've been hammering them for years under Biden, it has little to do with Trump at this point and shouldn't even be an argument on any media website other than to incite dodgy political nonsense, and no I'm not pro-Trump.

If I personally was in your position I'd wait at least until the line up and probable MSRP is announced, and that's happening AFAIK in the first week of Jan.

Ok I'll wait for few weeks to see how new gpu will shake up the second hand market.

 

[Vexr]

Given Nvidia's tendency to lock software features behind generation, I'm not so sure the 4090 is going to have the same legacy. We saw that with DLSS between the 3000-4000 series cards, I've no doubt they'll come up with something similar for the 5000.

Hard to imagine what that next exclusive feature could be. Maybe the new Gsync MediaTek module monitors could have some functionality only available on 5xxx series cards?

DLSS 3.0 frame generation is basically identical to FSR frame generation, making that exclusive 4xxx series feature a non-issue.

DLSS upscaling on the other hand, despite starting off badly with the 2000 series, has become a huge selling point for Nvidia cards now.

If the 5000 series only gets a meme-tier exclusive feature with a less than expected performance uplift, that might make a used 4090 look great after all - just like the 1080 Ti ages ago.

 

[Gray2233]

Hard to imagine what that next exclusive feature could be. Maybe the new Gsync MediaTek module monitors could have some functionality only available on 5xxx series cards?

It is, but I genuinely believe it's a stunt they'll pull.

There's very little reason current DLSS features can't work on 3000 series NV GPU's, and yet they don't. It's artificial, and they've not only the mindshare but market share right now. The company has scruples like Jason Statham has head hair, aka zero.

 

[OverDrive]

It is, but I genuinely believe it's a stunt they'll pull.

There's very little reason current DLSS features can't work on 3000 series NV GPU's, and yet they don't. It's artificial, and they've not only the mindshare but market share right now. The company has scruples like Jason Statham has head hair, aka zero.

Fully agree, artificially limiting features from one gen to the next when the hardware is more than capable is completely unacceptable, especially given the sky high pricing and the massive market share they hold. I really hope we have some healthy competition at the high end again soon. It’s desperately needed.

 

[Hotwired]

Fully agree, artificially limiting features from one gen to the next when the hardware is more than capable is completely unacceptable, especially given the sky high pricing and the massive market share they hold. I really hope we have some healthy competition at the high end again soon. It’s desperately needed.

Of course it's acceptable to them, it drives sales to new cards and denies life extensions to old cards being recycled in 2nd hand market.

And as for customers, well, as the local news linkers announce, Nvidia has risen to 90% of the market from continued and increased purchase of Nvidia cards so a drop of **** in the drink doesn't seem to be a deal breaker.

All customers have to do is stop buying the cards to prove they have strong feelings and will to back it up with actions.

Any complaint that Nvidia cards are too expensive and competition is needed to bring down Nvidia card pricing... screw whoever spends billions to make the alternative right?

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Another spicy opinion.

Buddy, I'd let you spout whatever you wanted until the end of time outside of harmful advertising, literal illegal stuff, or being unnecessarily nasty on a consistent basis. Go ahead and buy the 4090 if you haven't already, you're coming across as someone looking for people to offer you a bout of toxic positivity rather than genuine advice.

It's in my mind a very poor decision right now, and I'd hate for random people searching for similar questions to come across it and think otherwise.

Lol people are rarely looking for advice they're simply looking for everyone to chime in and agree with them so they can feel better about what they've already decided to purchase.

 

[Phixsator]

I'd be laughing my butt off if the 5080 isn't at least 25% faster than the 4080s and thats the bare minimum. Imagen it for a second. Brand new 5080 for atleast 1000 bucks if not 1200 bucks and only a 25% increase in performance. Turing owners, its safe to upgrade .

 

[Alt0153]

it wasnt a good idea when they came out so its prob not now either!

 

[scubes]

No with the 50 series coming hold off..