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Is displayport 1.3 going this next gen?

I doubt Nvidia going to support DP 1.3 or anything ever above DP 1.2

Because that means they will have to support Freesync by default on hardware level.
 
Simon Belmont said:
I would think they have to use DP 1.3 if they want 8K?
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Exactly my point. They are kinda stuffed. If they want to support 4K at 120hz+, 8K or anything else new that is on the pipeline at the moment, they have to use DP 1.3. Which brings adaptive sync support to Nvidia cards by default, killing the Gsync completely in the process.
 
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Panos said:
I doubt Nvidia going to support DP 1.3 or anything ever above DP 1.2

Because that means they will have to support Freesync by default on hardware level.
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Can I do the wrong, wrong and wrong thing? :S

Pretty sure adaptive sync is still (atleast when I last read the specs which wasn't long ago) an optional part of both the 1.3 and eDP 1.4+ standards and they'll never have to support freesync :P
 
layte said:
Adaptive Sync is optional in the 1.3 spec.

You should check your facts before donning the ol' tinfoil hat.
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Adaptive Sync according to VESA FAQ for DP 1.3

http://www.vesa.org/faqs/

Q: Is VESA’s new AdaptiveSync supported?

A: Yes. AdaptiveSync was first supported by DisplayPort 1.2a, and it is already supported in some available products. This is also branded as “Free-Sync” from AMD, which is based on VESA’s AdaptiveSync Standard.
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Was optional standard to support for 1.2, as it was 1.2a, but is part of 1.3 standard.
 
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supported does not mean required, don't look at the FAQ look at the actual spec or an article written by someone that has

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...d-with-displayport-1-4a-allows-for-8k-scaling

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8533/...rt-13-standard-50-more-bandwidth-new-features

remains an optional part of the specification
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DisplayPort Active-Sync remains an optional part of the specification
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Panos said:
Was optional standard to support for 1.2, as it was 1.2a,
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it wasn't even an option in 1.2 as 1.2a was the first revision that contained it
 
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andybird123 said:
supported does not mean required, don't look at the FAQ look at the actual spec or an article written by someone that has

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...d-with-displayport-1-4a-allows-for-8k-scaling

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8533/...rt-13-standard-50-more-bandwidth-new-features

it wasn't even optional in 1.2 as 1.2a was the first revision that contained it
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Hardware wise, it will be there in the DP port, Nvidia can choose not to implement it on their drivers.

So, in other words, Nvidia chooses NOT to support Adaptive Sync on DP 1.3, so the rest have to pay the Gsync tax.

You do realise that this statement is the sort of ammo in the arsenal, any marketing department wants against a competitor company?

And how you feel as a consumer, having NV limiting you the options because they want to push their own expensive product, even if the implementation at hardware level is there, and they have to switch it via drivers?
 
Panos said:
Hardware wise, it will be there in the DP port, Nvidia can choose not to implement it on their drivers.
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How do you figure that?
Adaptive sync isn't a requirement of the spec, so if they don't intend to support it they can save money on the GPU's by not adding that hardware, just DP1.3

why would I want them to add cost to the GPU when I already have Gsync?
or are AMD lying when they say their GPU's contain additional hardware needed to support freesync?
 
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andybird123 said:
why would I want them to add cost to the GPU when I already have Gsync?
or are AMD lying when they say their GPU's contain additional hardware needed to support freesync?
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You're in a minority and it's not just about you and those with G-sync monitors.

I doubt they will support it but it's besides the point, Once we (IF WE) eventually get TV's with freesync Nvidia will have to make a decision on whether to support it or have there market size reduced, I imagine they'll continue to milk people with G-sync for as long as possible before they do support it though.
 
nashathedog said:
You're in a minority and it's not just about you and those with G-sync monitors.

I doubt they will support it but it's besides the point, Once we (IF WE) eventually get TV's with freesync Nvidia will have to make a decision on whether to support it or have there market size reduced, I imagine they'll continue to milk people with G-sync for as long as possible before they do support it though.
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I was being a bit facetious as Panos was asking stupid questions.

As I said back when the whole freesync thing kicked off in the first place, it could really take off, it could become THE standard, however the path to that taking place is still a long one. Gsync will keep being sold for as long as it is profitable to do so, but rumours of its demise are still premature at this point.

At the point I bought my gsync monitor, freesync wasn't even an option, so its a moot point to start trying to ask me pointed questions about how I feel about nvidia not supporting it. And the nearest freesync version to what I have is still not quite as good, so given the choice I would still probably pay a little extra for the better product.

Even Intel supporting it is somewhere between 1-2 years away and I very much doubt nvidia will support it before Intel.
 
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Panos said:
Hardware wise, it will be there in the DP port, Nvidia can choose not to implement it on their drivers.

So, in other words, Nvidia chooses NOT to support Adaptive Sync on DP 1.3, so the rest have to pay the Gsync tax.

You do realise that this statement is the sort of ammo in the arsenal, any marketing department wants against a competitor company?

And how you feel as a consumer, having NV limiting you the options because they want to push their own expensive product, even if the implementation at hardware level is there, and they have to switch it via drivers?
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Adaptive sync support is optional in the 1.3 specification. It's not a requirement.
 
flopper said:
No, Nvidia will stay behind the curve.
they painted themselves into a corner with Gsync.

I guess a 1440p HDR 144hz screen isnt what they want you to buy.;)
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they can still call it Gsync if they dont wanna rebrand, they just get ride of the module and work on the driver & adaptive refresh.
 
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