Is full frame going to show up my glass?

Vertigo

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I'm generally a believer in the "glass before body" adage but now, having collected a decent collection of lenses, I think it's time to move from my 7D to a 5D3 as I feel it's the next logical step. Note that I won't be replacing the 7D as I'll be keeping it.

My current lens collection comprises:

24-70L
70-200 2.8 II
100L
50 1.4
(Also have a 10-22 and 15-85 but these aren't relevant to full frame)

The thing is, I'm well aware of the "sweet spot" effect that a crop sensor can have with lenses and there's a little worry that I'll end up disappointed when I lose this effect going to full frame.

My main concern is with the 24-70 as it's my main walkabout. I love this lens but how much is the quality going to "suffer" on full frame? Will the general increase in quality afforded by a FF sensor be outweighed with softness at the edges for example?

I guess I'm just worried that, five minutes after splurging on a 5D3, I'm going to be hankering after a 24-70 II :)
 
Your glass are fine. I have all but the 70-200 and that is meant to be amazing anyway.

Just shoot it wide open and don't pixel peep :p
 
Vertigo1 said:
Cheers for the reassurance Ray :)

BTW, didn't realise that you'd bought a 100L and haven't you given in to the 50L yet? :D
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I ALMOST did, even emailed Kerso about it, in the same week the Sigma 50 Art got announced and that intrigue kept me curious enough to wait to see if its good enough. I find 1.4 is nice on the 50mm, what I want to upgrade from the 50/1.4 is the size of the barrel and better built quality. I simply find the lens too small. So the Sigma having that new design and longer lens body actually is a plus.
 
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Really you needed to ask?

Three of them are L lenses and you thought it would show them up?

The 24-70 has been a great performer forever on the 5D2, why on earth would you then need the mk2. What a strange thread :p
 
Yeah I know I'm probably worrying unnecessarily but there's just that nagging thought. Think I'm a born worrier.

Current plan is 5D3 within the next few weeks followed by a Sigma 35 :)
 
I'd never be worried about buying a 5d3! It's one of the best cameras around at the moment, I just wish I could get on with the control layout :(
 
Well I'm coming from a 7D so the control layout should be familiar.

The control layout is actually a major plus point of the 5D3 for me, over say the 6D, in that it's not only familiar but I couldn't live without the joystick.
 
alexthecheese said:
Ha, yeah. I thought you were going to come up with some mid-range stuff, not £1k lenses! :p
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LOL sorry, obviously worrying unnecessarily but I tend to do that :p

As I said, I believe in the glass before body adage and have thus concentrated on the former until now but I think the next logical step is now to go FF.
 
Maybe worth a look at my thread somewhere called 50mm vs 24-85.
Although I don't know much about Canon since the days of my Canon A1.
I never noticed any difference between a prime vs zoom on a crop sensor but noticed a difference going full frame, although the kit zoom is farely cheap at £375.
Like you I'm going get a sigma 35mm & use that in conjunction with the prime. The 24-85 I'll only use if I really need it for a portrait or something. Then in the future, if I really need a zoom I'll plump for a £1200 28-70.
 
I doubt I'll ever go fully prime as I like the flexibility of zooms, especially when you don't want to carry a lot of lenses. That said I do plan to add some more primes.

First up will be the Sigma 35 as I need something in that focal length range. I've borrowed a friend's 24L II a couple of times to use on my 7D and the Sigma will provide a similar effective focal length on FF.

After that I'll probably pickup an 85 1.8, simply because it's cheap and a useful length on FF, doing much the same job my 50 1.4 has done on a crop. I may end up replacing the 50 with the new Sigma when it arrives, depending on how much I use that length after the FF change :)
 
Technically you have 2 of the 3 zooms you will ever need, a 24-70 and a 70-200. The 16-35 is not a must for most people.

So in theory, any new lens you are likely to get will be primes....it's only a matter of time you will go "full primes".
 
Yeah zoom-wise I can't see myself needing anything else really. The only exception would be if I ditched crop altogether and needed to replace the 10-22, in which case I'd get a 17-40 as I can't justify the 16-35.

Keeping the 7D though for flexibility and a backup. Also have a 40D which I'll keep as a second backup as it's worth so little it's not worth selling.
 
I have a similar setup. 7D + 5D3 plus 70-200 f/2.8 II, 24-70 MKI and a Sigma 50mm f/1.4 - recently sold my 16-35 f/2.8L as i wasn't getting used.

The 5D3 with the 24-70 is comparable to the 70-200 on the 7D, the 70-200 on the 5D3 is simply wow.

If I'm shooting 2 bodies it's usually 5D3 / 24-70 and 7D / 70-200 as it mean similar looking images IQ wise, and I have 24-70mm on FF and 112-320mm on crop covered. This also means I'm not putting the 70-200 on the 5D3 and noticing that the 24-70 doesn't cut it anymore in comparison when on the 7D as the 24-70MKII is a little out of my reach at the moment!
 
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Do you mean you have the 24-70 mk1? Bit confused as you initially say it's the mk2 but then said the mk2 was out of your reach :)

Know what you mean about the 70-200 II though, the images it produces are simply amazing.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Technically you have 2 of the 3 zooms you will ever need, a 24-70 and a 70-200. The 16-35 is not a must for most people.

So in theory, any new lens you are likely to get will be primes....it's only a matter of time you will go "full primes".
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Too true. The physical size of a prime compared to the massive 70-200 F2.8 is a big factor for me, but then I also really enjoy the super fast apertures that primes offer. I genuinely think that zooms made me lazy as a photographer as my composition became sloppy due to it.
 
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