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is Ghost Recon Expected to Stutter on my system or just how it is?

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got a 28 minute video of me going through the presets which im uploading to youtube, so will show that later, but first time playing this game on pc i wasnt sure what to expect, but its not as smooth as it probably should be even on low settings, is that my hardware or just how the game is?

just copy and paste this so you dont need to read my sig(what i put on video descriptions)

intel i3 [email protected]
gigabyte ga-h55n-usb3
8gb 1333mhz xms3
120gb + 32gb ssd & 250gb + 1tb hdd
Evga SC 1050ti 4gb
Evga supernova gs 550w gold FM
Coolermaster Elite 110

now i know recon requires quads pretty much, but normally i can be fine, fallout 4 while a more modern i3 and 16gb ram with 1gb card was used at the same res i play at still i could get buttery smooth playing over 50fps on high or highest and the same stage the division played smoothly too, much better than now, basically i used to run games better with a weaker gpu and an i3 before and while recon is very playable even on 'very high' , i just cant seem to figure out why even on low settings the max can go a bit more above 45, but most the time its around the 30's or dips below? basically like the fps range is near identical through all presets bar ultra.

ive only installed it because of the free weekend, undecided how much i could get in to it to buy it, but obviously i dont want playable stutter all the time lol
 
Higher settings use more GPU RAM. You might be hitting your 4GB limit, in which case the card will be using some slower system RAM which will cause stuttering.
 
thanks for reply.

yeah i understand about the vram limits, but even on low? according to the settings that requires less that 2gb at something like 1.7gb, surely if my card has 4gb and can use it then i shouldnt have iffy performance on the lowest setting and at 1366x768? i had a 270x before and only ever used 1.7gb of it in the division for example without issues on high settings, i dont know how the game engines used differ, but surely something not right? when i first went to options on the very first launch of the game it was defaulted to low, but it doesnt seem to play any differently to higher settings just better looking graphics, i dont know if using afterburner and upping the gpu will improve anything? dont know how well these cards overclock.
 
(assuming playing via Uplay) TURN OFF "Enable in-game overlay for supported games" in the UPLAY launcher 'general' settings.

Sounds too simple to be true, but That is my simple fix for stutter with this game. Took me a loooooong time to track down the cause on my rig. Report back how it goes for you....:)
 
I'd of thought that the cpu would be a likely suspect

What are your cpu & gpu loads like while playing?


I don't know what the Fallout 4 engine is like on a cpu but being an older engine I'd of thought it was more low core reliant and not likely to be indicative of a modern engine that uses multiple cores which I presume is what Wildlands is using. I may be completely wrong though.
 
i just been playing some and i turned off that thing suggested above although it said not recommended, i also had chrome in the background as im still uploading to youtube and i was recording as well, i was that unibad base and the fps while low 20's if not just under at certain times and upwards of 40, i died so didnt carry on to more open land lol, the stuttering wasnt too bad, but im still getting use to the controls as well, so a bit all over lol.

anyways i home button out to take some pics of usage, looked better on my phone, so hopefully readable, imgur doesnt put them in order not that it will make much difference.

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^these ones are obviously about the GPU performance^

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^these ones of the system memory/overall usage^

with the gpu percentage not even touching 70% it seems then id imagine my i3 being 1st gen is being the bottlekneck or am i looking at it wrong and its the limitations of system memory maxing out at 8gb?

while i failed the 2nd part, i was just doing the first convoy mission and was 20-30fps maybe a bit over(wasnt looking all the time) and obviously the odd stutter, but when the truck stopped at Polito's home ground during gun fire and car explosions it got pretty laggy and stooped to 12fps for a few seconds, went back to 20-30 when it came to tag and get on with the stealing car mission, i failed from poor aiming lol
 
spolsh said:
Your CPU is below the minimum spec they published for the game, so it certainly won't be helping things. RAM and GPU should be OK by the looks of it.

https://support.ubi.com/en-GB/Faqs/000025882/System-Requirements-for-Ghost-Recon-Wildlands
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yeah i know, but its never been an issue with other quad required games under newer i3 processors ive had and some i5 processors are not worth the jump to from an i3, clearly then as i do like playing on pc with this far that i need a better processor and not a dual core with turbo.

never looked it over after uploading, but this is the 28 minute long video i made, so hopefully tells the story.


i am sticking to very high settings now, see no gain going lower.
 
Probably related to a cpu bottkeneck, time to upgrade? Even picking up a cheap Sandy bridge i5/i7 would be a huge improvement for minimal outlay and you'll be able to take them to 4.4ghz+ easily with a cheap heatsink :)
 
The fact the CPU is at 99% utilisation is pretty clear evidence that it’s your CPU that’s the problem.

Stick an i7 in there and see what happens. :)
 
thanks for replies and did wonder how long it be before someone said to upgrade ha.

its only this game i even thought to check usage of as i was making that video, but is my i3 the bottleneck because it lacks the cores or a combination of that and old age and low clock?

reason i question, the last i3 i did any proper gaming on was the 4160 i had and at the stock 3.6ghz despite slower gpu cards used, i had no such issues running quad required demanding games at 1366x768 unless i tried to push passed the 1gb vram cards, but even BF4 played very well on high with 100% gpu usage aswell, so would i not be better trying to overclock or it the architecture just too old to compare?

i had been looking at the i5 750/760 and had another look at the i7 860 or a xenon i was pointed to, but since i had to return my i7 because it was dead it does make me think whether i should try spend £25-40 for an 4c8t cpu again or just replace it all with a better system, was thinking about a gaming laptop, but i dont think a 950/960m will do the job for this game if my pc is only lacking cpu grunt and knowing a 1050ti is much better.


is this game cpu or gpu bound or a bit of both?
 
yeah i am always looking on there, so will keep my eyes peeled.

one thing i am wondering, will a true 4 core with my 1050ti make a big enough difference? was looking up ghost recon benchmarks on 'notebookcheck' and it seems a 970 is minimum id need along with a quad to get over 40fps at 1920x1080 on medium/high/very high?, okay thats not the res i game at, but because i was looking up gaming laptops, the 1050ti mobile version just tops the desktop 970 by couple fps and i dont know how comparable the mobile version of my card is? think most their test systems for the 40fps onwards had i7's and the odd i5 processors, desktop or laptop variant.

i found a a really cool system for £290, sadly its in southampton so miles away and this is on facebook lol

i5 3450
8gb
gtx 970
no hdd
power supply model unknown
Aerocool Strike X Air

so its the fact of that case and it having basically the minimum spec id need to run this game better, but 290 seems a lot, is this the sort of price i should be expecting to get a quad and a 970? i could probably get an i5 for mine, but im still limited to 8gb ram and itx boards up to skylake are hard to find or pricey.
 
Shock when 10 year old dual core CPU struggles with AAA title in 2018.

You need an upgrade, and you also need to know that you can take screenshots rather than using a camera. :P
 
Someone I know tried out the benchmark during the free weekend with an RX480 and and AMD Phenom II. Most FPS at lowest settings sub-1080p was 30 (avergaed 20ish), GPU utilisation never went close to 100% and changing graphical settings did barely much at all to help.

I took the opportunity to remind them that it's time to upgrade to Ryzen. If I'm not mistaken, this game is pretty CPU heavy.

I myself haven't played this game since open beta. Back then with a 4790k and a 970 I was struggling to get 60fps at 1080p. I feel like it's been worse this weekend with my Xeon and 980ti (admittedly I put most of the graphical settings at max or close to it), averaging around 40fps in gameplay. This seems to backup my theory that this game likes CPU, since having a much better graphics card doesn't seem to outweigh having a slightly worse CPU.

My brother got average ~50% GPU utilisation (around 30fps @ 1080p settings) on i5-4460 and RX480 back in the beta, but he didn't try the game this weekend. I'm inclined to believe that he might have gotten similar results these days.
 
AiiR said:
Shock when 10 year old dual core CPU struggles with AAA title in 2018.

You need an upgrade, and you also need to know that you can take screenshots rather than using a camera. :p
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im used to taking pictures with my phone, so i dont think of screenshots lol, but thanks for the advise.

its not meant to be a shock either, i know theres a few years between this and the haswell i3, so architecture has changed, but regardless of the lower clock speed as well, the formula is still the same pretty much, 2 cores 4 threads which is why i wanted to know specifically what the issue was if a newer i3 never gave me bottleneck. i could get a cooler and overclock to 3.6 or near there if that was the issue, but i doubt it is.
 
sanaxe1 said:
Buy a i5 760 for £23 off the popular auction site.
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i could get it under £20 from that lovely(sarcasm) 2nd hand shop in town thats so popular lol, but after buying a 860 from them for £35 that turned out to be dead, i question buying processors from them, but equally i dont want to pay more than i have to if it can be found cheaper.
 
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