OK then. Stealing a packet of chewing gum is still illegal, regardless of whether you get caught, and indeed regardless of whether you are observed.
Is it illegal to record someone?
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OK then. Stealing a packet of chewing gum is still illegal, regardless of whether you get caught, and indeed regardless of whether you are observed.
Your the one who said "Nothing is illegal until you get caught" or did I imagine that?
Thats why I decided to point out murder - or even a packet of Chewing gum as Vonhelmet has above.....
Your flaw is thinking anybody here takes you seriously.
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I knew I'd seen a post by you that seemed particularly apposite and then I found it.
If anyone wants to check the context, please click the little blue button to the right of the quote so I'm not accused of misquoting. However it does look rather like you're suggesting that it is, in fact, sensible for you to take arguments to a logical extreme yet when others do the same it suddenly becomes a flawed methodology.
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This is a fair point, but you mis-understand. I take my arguments the logical extreme to imply that nothing changes, R420LA6X2/4MNA took it to the extreme to imply that it does change. Bringing up murder to invoke a emotional or moral response and then insult me?
As above.
Whatever the crime may be, as only you know about it then it comes down to your judgement of wether it is illegal or legal. I dont consider it to be legal or illegal and thus it is both
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Yeah, because he's pointing out that you're wrong.
Pretty sure you don't get to choose which laws to obey kid. Well ok, you do, but they don't become legal if you do break them.
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This has probably been said many a time but stealing a hard drive is also a massive invasion of privacy, (and is also stealing obviously 
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)Have fun in court.
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Yeah, because he's pointing out that you're wrong.
You obviously dont understand, i will repeat it as slow as i can because you obviously cant seem to read. I go to extreme to show nothing changes, R4 went to the extreme to imply it does change. But as it doesnt change, the point becomes irrelevent. How can he point out i am wrong by doing that? I also cant be wrong as it is an opinion.
Resulting to insults is means you admit defeat
This is a philosophical debate. The only reason i will be in court is if i want to be there, out of many possibilities the only reason would be to take the blame for someone else.
I am under the impression you believe this would be my defense in court? But as everyone there would have some sort of evidence, my claim of it not being illegal is no-one can prove it would become irrelevent as they can?
I was in a similar situation a long long time ago and hid a tape recorder in the bedroom to confirm my suspicions that the wife was sleeping with another woman. Didn't go down to well when I gave the recording to her friends, who she had mocked for years for being gay! 
Proof does not pertain to something being legal or not, proof is to determine guilt.
The act in and of itself is either legal or illegal it cannot be both at the same time. Legality is a status, it is not an opinion.
Your guilt / innocence however can be based upon many factors including opinion, however that does not remove the fact that an act is either legal or illegal.
Your Schrodingers cat analogy is a false one as all intepretations realise that something cannot exist in two states in the same place at the same time. The observation of the state is irrelevant.
I was in a similar situation a long long time ago and hid a tape recorder in the bedroom to confirm my suspicions that the wife was sleeping with another woman. Didn't go down to well when I gave the recording to her friends, who she had mocked for years for being gay!
Can't compete with a woman mate.