Is it just me or..

Yeah I think the problem was that they were artificially too cheap before. It's a lot of work to harvest and ship nuts.

If you plan to use quite a few over time, wholesale from hippy food shops are the way forward, can be up to 1/2 the price if bought in ~kg bags.
 
It's because they're all grown in countries that were previously poor as **** but are now starting to pay their labour force higher wages. That and the stupid 'fairtrade / organic' fads that have appeared.
 
Not sure how 'fairtrade' is stupid...but I have also noticed the cost has increased, but just put it down to inflation
 
HeadlessChicken said:
Yeah I think the problem was that they were artificially too cheap before. It's a lot of work to harvest and ship nuts.

If you plan to use quite a few over time, wholesale from hippy food shops are the way forward, can be up to 1/2 the price if bought in ~kg bags.
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Hmm? which shop is this? I usually get mine off the bay in 1kg bags but they've gone up as well.
 
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You're just noticing this now? the price of EVERYTHING has gone up, even prostitutes have suffered because of inflation lol
 
Well it must have happened to nuts at least within the last couple of months because about two months ago I bought 5 x 1kg tubs of varied nut butters off the bay for about £8 each now they're over £10, same goes with a standard 1kg bag of almonds.
 
Robbie G said:
Because it increases the prices for consumers. I'm a free market man, any price is fair if someone is willing to sell at that price.
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So you are saying that you don't care if people in the third world are exploited by cartels, just so you can have your nuts cheaper?
 
TheDean said:
So you are saying that you don't care if people in the third world are exploited by cartels, just so you can have your nuts cheaper?
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It's not my job to subsidise the third world's poor business practices. Besides, you misunderstand if you think any of this extra cash is falling into the hands of the 'exploited' workers.
 
Lol, Robbie G you really do shine sometimes. Your opinion stinks. Fairtrade has its shortcomings but it does benefit workers and it does reduce exploitation. They're actually quite strict policing their values too. Have a look into fairtrade chocolate if you don't believe me; that's one of the most corrupt global trades riddled with exploitation, forced and child labour, but fairtrade manages to straighten it out.

Your 'free market' as you put it results in the sort of exploitation that has got the world into the inequitable mess it is in. I for one am glad there's someone prepared to do something about it and at least give consumers the option.
 
Jonny69 said:
Lol, Robbie G you really do shine sometimes. Your opinion stinks. Fairtrade has its shortcomings but it does benefit workers and it does reduce exploitation. They're actually quite strict policing their values too. Have a look into fairtrade chocolate if you don't believe me; that's one of the most corrupt global trades riddled with exploitation, forced and child labour, but fairtrade manages to straighten it out.

Your 'free market' as you put it results in the sort of exploitation that has got the world into the inequitable mess it is in. I for one am glad there's someone prepared to do something about it and at least give consumers the option.
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Fairtrade isn't guaranteed to line the pockets of labourers. At least I'm not hypocritical about it and my opinion is consistent. Take the droop in organic sales...along comes a recession, suddenly people are less concerned with organic free range chickens and just want the cheapest barn / battery they can get.

Fairtrade is a con to allow retailers to put their prices up by more than the extra they paid the farmer.

Furthermore it's funny how people are only concerned about confronting exploitation when it's convenient for them, i.e. sat on their supermarket shelf. Then suddenly they think they're regular charitable crusaders. If fairtrade fans are so desperate to help foreign workers with crap jobs, why don't they post a cheque to a random Kenyan beaner every month.
 
Robbie G said:
Fairtrade isn't guaranteed to line the pockets of labourers. At least I'm not hypocritical about it and my opinion is consistent. Take the droop in organic sales...along comes a recession, suddenly people are less concerned with organic free range chickens and just want the cheapest barn / battery they can get.

Fairtrade is a con to allow retailers to put their prices up by more than the extra they paid the farmer.

Furthermore it's funny how people are only concerned about confronting exploitation when it's convenient for them, i.e. sat on their supermarket shelf. Then suddenly they think they're regular charitable crusaders. If fairtrade fans are so desperate to help foreign workers with crap jobs, why don't they post a cheque to a random Kenyan beaner every month.
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I don't even know where to start with this...I suppose this should assist with your ignorance: http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/what_is_fairtrade/faqs.aspx.

It seems to me Fairtrade, as an idea, is particularly valuable to stop 3rd world worker explotation by 1st world bully buyers. If you don't want to buy into it, don't. But don't try and claim that it's anything other than your own preconceived ideas about what Fairtrade is. The comment about 'why don't they send them a cheque to the Kenyan beaner' highlights what kind of level you are operating on. I'd suspect this from a drunk down the pub who later goes onto complain about 'illegals'. The ignorance displayed is astonishing
 
I've read that website, however it did nothing to allay my concern that the extra cash goes to a) retail profits and b) the farmer and not the workers.

This modern-day obsession with 'fair' business bugs the crap out of me. Lots of stuff in life isn't fair, why should business be fair? And why don't people apply their values consistently if they're so worried? For example, I bet not all your clothes are made with fairtrade cotton. People only support fairtrade to give themselves the misguided warm and fuzzy feeling that they're doing something nice, not because they actually care about the poorly paid workers and their livelihoods, otherwise they'd go further out of their way to apply their supposed values across the board.

Rather than address any of my points sensibly, you've just hidden behind your hippy shroud and called me ignorant.
 
Robbie G said:
I've read that website, however it did nothing to allay my concern that the extra cash goes to a) retail profits and b) the farmer and not the workers.

This modern-day obsession with 'fair' business bugs the crap out of me. Lots of stuff in life isn't fair, why should business be fair? And why don't people apply their values consistently if they're so worried? For example, I bet not all your clothes are made with fairtrade cotton. People only support fairtrade to give themselves the misguided warm and fuzzy feeling that they're doing something nice, not because they actually care about the poorly paid workers and their livelihoods, otherwise they'd go further out of their way to apply their supposed values across the board.

Rather than address any of my points sensibly, you've just hidden behind your hippy shroud and called me ignorant.
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You make no sensible points, with little reasoning. Your opinions show you to be an individual who cares little for the poorer nations, and people who perhaps do not have the same chances as us in life. Other than using base logic expected at kicking out time in a Bigg Market pub, you have little to add other than "You think fairtrade is a good idea, so you're a hippy", which amuses me. I don't think I've ever been called a hippy in my life...yet another string to my bow! :)
 
It's funny how people suddenly like to show how much they care for the poorer nations when they can demonstrate it on the conveyor belt in Waitrose.
 
Robbie G said:
It's funny how people suddenly like to show how much they care for the poorer nations when they can demonstrate it on the conveyor belt in Waitrose.
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I don't understand. Are you claiming I shop at Waitrose? Who shops at Waitrose? It's totally obvious you've totally missed the point of Fairtrade
 
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