Is it not too late to upgrade from 970 to 1070 or wait?

Praeceps

Praeceps

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Hey there the reason why I'm thinking of upgrading is because I'm getting a friend a graphics card for his birthday. I'm wondering if to get him my used 970(so that I can buy a 1070 instead) or buy him a new 1060 and I will keep the 970 for now.
But the 1070 has been out for a while now, nearly a year. Is it worth getting it now or shall I wait for the 1170?

I game at 1080p 144hz. I mostly play overwatch at the moment at medium settings and the odd GTA 5 now and then.
I might get Witcher 3 soon though.

Edit: my cpu is 3570k @ 4ghz
 
The GTX 1070 would give significant gains gaming at 1080p 144Hz - clicky. You would be able to play everything on ULTRA and still get very good FPS.

If you were to go down this route I would clock your CPU some more to get more out of the GPU.

EDIT: Witcher would definitely benefit from a better card - but would be perfectly playable on your 970 with lesser settings.
 
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Eh I'm not sure on the overclocking higher. I do have a good cpu cooler (Noctua) but when I put it up to 4.3 I get crashes now and then. Unless I'm doing something wrong with the overclocking. I've just copied other people's settings that has the same cpu and mobo. I've done around 2 or 3 settings that others were successful with and didn't get much luck there.
 
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Eh I'm not sure on the overclocking higher. I do have a good cpu cooler (Noctua) but when I put it up to 4.3 I get crashes now and then. Unless I'm doing something wrong with the overclocking. I've just copied other people's settings that has the same cpu and mobo. I've done around 2 or 3 settings that others were successful with and didn't get much luck there.
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It should hit 4.4GHz comfortably - but every CPU is different. And what ever flavour of Noctua you have installed would be good enough for the job.

Can you remember the voltage you applied - or did you leave it on auto?

What are your load temps like?
 
These are the settings I tried.
CPU Ratio = All Core
All Core = 43
Turbo = 0.004
Spread Spectrum = Auto
Internal PLL Overvoltage = Disabled
GT Overclocking Support = Disabled
Power Saving Mode = Disabled
CPU Voltage = Offset Mode
Offset = -0.060
CPU Load Line Calibration = Level 5
CPU PLL Voltage is set to 1.709

Afterwards I tried overwatch and it crashed as soon as I spawned. Not checked my load temps yet. I did try 4.3 like 2 years ago and had trouble then I just stuck with 4ghz, I can't remember what settings I did back then. But I remember temps were fine before so it was probably some settings.

Getting 55-60c on 4ghz on prime95
 
Okay I've been able to do 4.6ghz at 1.288v. Temps max of 88c with prime95 but most of the time its been 70-80c. It's ran stable for 20mins. Is that a bit hot for the cpu at that clock? Ambient temp is 25c. Would it probably need reseating and repaste?
Or shall I just stick with 4.5ghz? That maxes at 83c.

Edit : cpu cooler is d14
 
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Not for prime - small FFTs crucify the CPU as it's a synthetic stress test which works the CPU to it's max and prime 95 really punishes it - more than any app/game will ever do.

Try using and abusing for while in games/apps/surfing - ideally you would test for longer, using a blend test or Asus Realbench, Cinebench - but nothing substitutes general day-to-day usage. You can pass all the stress tests and have it still fail while reading reddit...

Your temps of 70-80 are a little on the warm side for gaming(?), given your cooler, but well within tolerance.

Try dropping the voltage a little once you're sure it's stable - then use and abuse again - rinse and repeat until it buckles and then go back to last stable voltage.
 
I should probably ask a similar question, no hijack intended, CPU is 5820 at 4Ghz around 35 to 40 idle, doesn't get that much higher in games. GPU is GTX 980 4GB.

Any point getting new card at the moment? I remember reading somewhere on OCUK that to get the best out of money/performance we should upgrade every 2nd or 3rd generation cards:) or is that pushing it?
 
What res/Hz do you game at and what games do you play?

Are you having problems in the games that you play?
 
Okay it was fine with prime for a good hour but playing on overwatch for a few minutes and the PC crashes.
I have since lowered it to 4.5 with a lower voltage and all looks fine. I can't be bothered trying to get a sweet spot for it. :) 4.5 is this enough for me. Of course I will test for the best voltage.
In the end I did buy the 1070 (MSI ARMOR OC), just waiting for it to arrive tomorrow.
Cheers for the help. :)
 
Okay another question, rather than creating another thread. I currently have 2x 4gb installed. Shall I buy 2 more 4gb sticks and have it as a 4x 4gb setup? Or buy a new lot of ram sticks that are 2x 8gb?
I would prefer the 4x4gb as it's less to spend and I won't need to sell anything. But would that effect performance compared to 2x 8gb?
I just game. No rendering.
 
Tough one.

Your system is overclocked and using all 4 slots will put more stress on the memory controller within the CPU and in turn could affect your clock/stability.

If it's a moderate clock this can usually be compensated for by bumping the Vcore or memory voltage or both - but there's no guarantee i'm afraid. But lots of members have had success running a clock and 4 sticks, myself included. (for example i run a [email protected] - i added another 2 sticks and had to up the Vcore by an increment or two and the memory by 0.05V. Although i should add i think i dropped my clock from 4.7 - can't remember anymore, clocked a few and have 3 rigs - different chips - in the house, hard to keep track.).

Ideally you would run 2 sticks of 8Gb - less stress and if you can't match the sticks already in the MB also less tweaking.

I would do some searches on 'running ivybridge clocked with all 4 slots filled' and see what hits you get.
 
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