Is it still worth having a separate game drive with how fast nvme is?

Ribbed, for her pleasure? :o
Yeah, you could say it's '******* ridiculous' ;) - See what I did there... I'll get my coat!

The cool thing about this (sorry couldn't resist) it never throttles/gets hot, and being OEM fitted, garrantees this. It was only £36 more than the non HS version, and I got it for the price of the non HS model in a sale sold elsewhere ;) Win win!

The only downside, is on that tiny writing you can't see when fitted, they forgot to add 'Pro' between the 'MP600 PRO XT' on the branding, as the pro signifies the posh HS, I know I should have sent it back :cry::D

When it's fitted, you truely do have a WTF moment when you step back, I mean it was massive in my stupidly big shovel hands, but once fitted to the motherboard, it's something you have to witness in person.

Here's a random pic off google, but you get the idea, beast!

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what motherboard do you have there? is the drive PCIE 5.0?? @keef247

you have MSI MAG B550M Mortar Max Wifi?
I take it you've got sigs turned off for some reason despite having yours enabled? PCI-E 4.0 NVME, ridiculous lifespan, fast asf, B550M motherboard.
| LG Ultra Gear 32GN600-B 165Hz 1440P | Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless |
| MSI MAG B550M Mortar Max Wifi | 32GB 3600mhz CAS16 Corsair LPX |
| 5700X | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE | Asus Dual RTX 4070 |
| 2TB Corsair MP600 PRO XT | NZXT C850 850W | Antec NX410 |

EDIT: updated spec of my NVME:
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I take it you've got sigs turned off for some reason despite having yours enabled? PCI-E 4.0 NVME, ridiculous lifespan, fast asf, B550M motherboard.

no but over time I've learned that not everyone keeps then up to date.

With such a massive heatsink i just assumed it would be PCIe5.0
 
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no but over time I've learned that not everyone keeps then up to date.

With such a massive heatsink i just assumed it would be PCIe5.0
Ah ok, we should administer suspensions for those who don't update it ;)
I thought when you saw it was in my sig, that you'd twig, being the same aforementioned name/model ;)

The heatsink ensures it runs at sucha decent temp with 0 throttling, there's literally a disclaimer warning sticker stuck to it when you remove it from the packaging, stating that if removed they cant guarantee that it'll operate at the spec listed above in that screenshot I've added for you :)

As I say I got it for the price of the non heatsink model, and I think it looks badass when fitted (not that I care but a bonus), from monitoring the temps it definitely sticks to the claimed temps under load :) and the lifespan of the card is ridiculous, and well proven. Very hard to beat.

You can't deny it's a sweet bit of kit, and for £136 for 2TB with next day delivery versus £172.99 at the time, can't go wrong, as I say the retail for the non pro version without the heatsink was that price excluding delivery...

Considering so many people even on B550M were still running PCI-E 3 NVME's, this is fast asf, and still fast, regardless of PCI-E 5. For copying files about it's instant, as you can imagine regarding the spec...

Definitely one of the coolest things Corsair have made hands down.

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I screenshotted the 1TB version before, so here's what I have and it's spec, the 2TB:
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I keep mine on a different drive mostly because games are the most massive things I install, and I want to make sure there's plenty of space on the main drive at all times. Not really a performance thing.

Wasting one of the very limited M.2 slots for tiny OS drive has absolute zero sense.

"Very limited"? These days, a midrange motherboard will likely have more M.2 than you will ever need unless you've got specialist needs.
 
"Very limited"? These days, a midrange motherboard will likely have more M.2 than you will ever need unless you've got specialist needs.
Mid range boards have usually two M.2 slots.
You need to go to high end chipset to get four M.2s to have number closer to SATA ports.
 
Mid range boards have usually two M.2 slots.

Looking through OCUK's selection of Intel motherboards, the only midrange boards I can see with 2x M.2 are smaller footprint boards. 4x is normal, some have 3x or 5x. Even most of the budget end boards have more than 2. The AMD motherboards seem to have slightly lower numbers on average but even then most midrange boards have 4x.
 
I know this is an old topic but I still continue to this day to partition my drive for Windows.

I usually give Windows, 200 GB and quickly reformat every year when performance degrades, and it always does.

File explorer is still an awful unoptimised mess, all these decades later.

I pray for the day a LinuxOS distro matures enough to be as good at gaming to replace Windows as my primary OS, I continue to support Valve by buying their Deck in this cause, hopefully by the end of this decade!
 
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I’ve not had Windows degradation of performance for years. I used to clone my system drive for Windows 98/ME as it needed formatting every month it was so bad, so I just used to restore from an image.

I’m not sure I reinstalled Windows 10 more than once in the whole time it was available and I only just did a clean install of W11 as I upgraded all the main components in my PC and just wanted a fresh start.

The only thing I’ve found that slows down modern windows are mechanical drives as they get older.
 
My own preference is different drives for different things.

I would say getting started with a single 2tb or 1tb is fine, simply add a second if you have a massive game folder or such.

If you work with music or video even if just a hobby, and like to play games, then you will find it rather easy to be running multiple drives. Four NVMe with a couple of SSD and HDD isn't unheard of along side externals.

Old PC had around four drives not including external, current PC is on three, and was considering another two NVMe with the current sales.
 
Looking through OCUK's selection of Intel motherboards, the only midrange boards I can see with 2x M.2 are smaller footprint boards. 4x is normal, some have 3x or 5x. Even most of the budget end boards have more than 2. The AMD motherboards seem to have slightly lower numbers on average but even then most midrange boards have 4x.

Just because a motherboard has NVMe slots doesn't mean you can use them all, most suffer with shared PCI lanes, and not everyone wants to spend hundreds on a motherboard to maximize storage.
 
Just because a motherboard has NVMe slots doesn't mean you can use them all, most suffer with shared PCI lanes, and not everyone wants to spend hundreds on a motherboard to maximize storage.

You usually can use them all, just that they may not operate at full speed

There is all sorts of shenanigans that goes on, boards get advertised as pcie5 but then that only applies to one Nvme slot and it shares lanes
 
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Personally, I grade things - so will happily spend more for the boot drive to get faster performance, but don't need so much size.

Another for games, which I'm now putting on a chunky 4TB NVME - but don't need blazing fast speeds.

And then finally anything else, like MP3s, random installers etc can get chucked on a SATA3 SSD to free up space.

Maybe in a few years NVME drives will be cheap enough that I can abandon SATA altogether, but I expect I'll be running one for a few more years.
 
You usually can use them all, just that they may not operate at full speed

There is all sorts of shenanigans that goes on, boards get advertised as pcie5 but then that only applies to one Nvme slot and it shares lanes

Which was what I was inferring.

You can see some of the shenanigans quite clearly on Youtube content such as created by Ronin Wilde, where PCIe lanes of many motherboards and how they interact is shown.
 
Personally, I grade things - so will happily spend more for the boot drive to get faster performance, but don't need so much size.

Another for games, which I'm now putting on a chunky 4TB NVME - but don't need blazing fast speeds.

And then finally anything else, like MP3s, random installers etc can get chucked on a SATA3 SSD to free up space.

Maybe in a few years NVME drives will be cheap enough that I can abandon SATA altogether, but I expect I'll be running one for a few more years.

In reality Sata SSD is often as expensive or in some cases more so than NVMe, and it's only when your looking at above 4tb most will start looking to HDD based on what is being stored.

I certainly do not see HDD ever being replaced by NVMe, as you can at least store an HDD unpowered and retain some data, it's still the cheapest mass storage, and about the only cost effective for data centers etc.

SSD can lose data after a few years un-powered.
 
Just because a motherboard has NVMe slots doesn't mean you can use them all, most suffer with shared PCI lanes, and not everyone wants to spend hundreds on a motherboard to maximize storage.

Shared lanes only matter for speed when you're using them at the same time and you'd be hitting speeds on those drives that would choke out that shared lane. I don't think it's a real issue for normal use because these drives are so fast that the differences are detectable in benchmarks rather than in user experience.
 
I've used a nvme for Windows and a solid state drive for my games and it works well tbh.
 
In reality Sata SSD is often as expensive or in some cases more so than NVMe, and it's only when your looking at above 4tb most will start looking to HDD based on what is being stored.
For me, it's more that there are plenty of sizeable SATA3 SSDs left around now from old upgrades. In my case I've got a 2TB and 1TB SATA SSD, and I'm sure they'll pop up for low prices on classifieds as people upgrade to NVME.

I certainly wouldn't go out and buy a SATA SSD these days, but the point is that I'm not going to spend money upgrading those to NVME when the read / write speeds are largely irrelevant.
 
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