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Is it worth getting anything more than a i5-4690k for gaming?

While the 4690K is a great CPU, I can't see it offering much improvement over your current i7 in terms of gaming.

Also if you are to upgrade your platform, might as well get the new skylake.
 
andypandylin said:
While the 4690K is a great CPU, I can't see it offering much improvement over your current i7 in terms of gaming.

Also if you are to upgrade your platform, might as well get the new skylake.
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he speaks the truth, what you are getting is a new pathway to further upgrades modern motherboards have a lot of great features on them
 
MikeB said:
he speaks the truth, what you are getting is a new pathway to further upgrades modern motherboards have a lot of great features on them
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Indeed, it would be incredibly foolish to get a 4690k haswell (2013 tech) - it's cheaper for a reason.

Skylake overclocks well, has great gaming performance and all the latest chipset tech.
 
Upgrade paths are overrated. By the time skylake is getting slow it will be new mobo time anyway. The new features on that board are not anything special, and most can be added to an old mobo via PCI card.not worth the extra money in my opinion.

Also DDR4 will never be "required" to run new games, RAM is ram and has been since before DDR. Even after SIMMs became DIMMs there were no compatibility issues and that was a bigger technological shift than ddr3 to ddr4
 
KelDG said:
Upgrade paths are overrated. By the time skylake is getting slow it will be new mobo time anyway. The new features on that board are not anything special, and most can be added to an old mobo via PCI card.not worth the extra money in my opinion.

Also DDR4 will never be "required" to run new games, RAM is ram and has been since before DDR. Even after SIMMs became DIMMs there were no compatibility issues and that was a bigger technological shift than ddr3 to ddr4
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I assume your a Haswell owner threatened by Skylake? Nothing else makes sense - for something buying new of course they'd be best off going z170/Skylake:

1. Upgrade path (Haswell = dead socket)
2. DDR4 (3000Mhz kits are cheap, and faster speeds available all the time)
3. 20 more PCI-E v3 lanes from the chipset for use with high speed SSD's
4. Much more consistent overclocks (as confirmed by 8pack who tested loads of these), 4.6-4.8Ghz is very common.
5. Cooler running CPU, thanks to 14nm process
6. Yes it's more expensive - though did you expect it to be cheaper than the 'old stuff'? Shop around, it's only a £30-£40 premium.
7. Faster performance, significantly so in several applications, gaming 2-5% faster.
 
Dave2150 said:
I assume your a Haswell owner threatened by Skylake? Nothing else makes sense - for something buying new of course they'd be best off going z170/Skylake:

1. Upgrade path (Haswell = dead socket)

2. DDR4 (3000Mhz kits are cheap, and faster speeds available all the time)

3. 20 more PCI-E v3 lanes from the chipset for use with high speed SSD's

4. Much more consistent overclocks (as confirmed by 8pack who tested loads of these), 4.6-4.8Ghz is very common.

5. Cooler running CPU, thanks to 14nm process

6. Yes it's more expensive - though did you expect it to be cheaper than the 'old stuff'? Shop around, it's only a £30-£40 premium.
7. Faster performance, significantly so in several applications, gaming 2-5% faster.
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Hehe, nope, I'm on 2500k, not threatened at all why would I be? There has been nearly bugger all improvement since sandy bridge. I class all the processors after that in the same group, benchmarks are all within around 10/15fps gaming anyway.

1, like I said who upgrades the socket anyway, by the time you need to replace the cpu it will be oem and cost more than it is worth anyway. Might as well buy the best CPU you can at the time.

2, who cares about ddr4 or fast ramspeed unless you are on an integrated GPU, so few gains

3, high speed ssds so someone on a 1200MB/s drive will boot into windows in 4 seconds compared to my 550MB/s drive that does it in 8 seconds, again who cares.

4. Can't argue with the overclocking apart from you need to buy a good cooler since the skylake k processors don't come with one at all so add some money to the build.

5. Fair enough can't beat a die shrink.

6. Last time I looked there was a massive premium on these new chips looking at +100 quid plus cooler if getting the k chip.

7. 2 to 5 percent is not significant, the extra 100 quid into GPU would net more than that. Fair enough if they are using it for other applications.

8. I put way to much effort into this lol.

If you can get the newer tech for 40 quid more go for it but I bet it's not in stock where you have seen it and 40 quid more into a gpu would still get you better performance increase.
 
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4690k or any other quad can be a bottleneck when a game is multi-threaded, take crysis 3 for example.

With my 4670k there are many instances when GPU usage would drop to 70-80% as the cores are fully maxed, with my i7 it's 99% usage all the time.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
4690k or any other quad can be a bottleneck when a game is multi-threaded, take crysis 3 for example.

With my 4670k there are many instances when GPU usage would drop to 70-80% as the cores are fully maxed, with my i7 it's 99% usage all the time.
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+1 i7 every time if you can afford it, my only regret is getting an i5 sandy not an i7
 
Dave2150 said:
I assume your a Haswell owner threatened by Skylake? Nothing else makes sense - for something buying new of course they'd be best off going z170/Skylake:

1. Upgrade path (Haswell = dead socket)
2. DDR4 (3000Mhz kits are cheap, and faster speeds available all the time)
3. 20 more PCI-E v3 lanes from the chipset for use with high speed SSD's
4. Much more consistent overclocks (as confirmed by 8pack who tested loads of these), 4.6-4.8Ghz is very common.
5. Cooler running CPU, thanks to 14nm process
6. Yes it's more expensive - though did you expect it to be cheaper than the 'old stuff'? Shop around, it's only a £30-£40 premium.
7. Faster performance, significantly so in several applications, gaming 2-5% faster.
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This man talks sense ^

The only thing that is wrong is 8 pack testing these chips. He's telling everyone that skylake is worthless? Then he sells his 8 pack skylake bundle and then says it's a good chip? I'm sorry, but this guy flip-flops on what's good all the time. Makes it hard to trust his word?
 
Simon Belmont said:
This man talks sense ^

The only thing that is wrong is 8 pack testing these chips. He's telling everyone that skylake is worthless? Then he sells his 8 pack skylake bundle and then says it's a good chip? I'm sorry, but this guy flip-flops on what's good all the time. Makes it hard to trust his word?
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Erm no he didn't! He said for multi threaded / HT use the X99 platform is better than moving to Skylake. Doesn't make the 8pack Skylake bundle any less sale-able or relevant to people who want to buy into that generation of processors.
 
I only recentley came over to intel from running AMD for the last few years..

I had looked at skylake system but my problem was I was on a budget.. I needed to save cash where I could so I went for the 4690k. that way I could transfer over my ram with my other components.
I'm not disappointed on what Ive done and I wouldn't see it as a wasted upgrade as Ill still get a few good years out of the 4690k

ohh and as for 2013 tech.... the 4690k was released April 2014!! June 2014!!
 
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I was having a look around and I think I will opt for a skylake system I have the money atm :) was having a look on amazon and found their are two 6600ks for different prices? what is the difference?



also when it comes to RAM is 2400MHz with CAS 14 or 2666MHz with CAS 16 better?
 
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oh sorry Overclockers doesnt have 6600ks in stock atm :( and I realised that it was a 6700 not 6700k that was only £30 more. What is the difference between the 6600/6700 and the 6600k/6700k?
 
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K chips have unlocked multipliers for overclocking, 6600 is a 4 core 4 thread chip, 6700 features 4 cores 8 threads via hyperthreading.
 
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