Is my CPU OK to run the current gen?

[Relentless81]

I have an AMD x4 965 at 3.6GHZ and currently running a GTX 560 1GB

I'm considering upgrading the card to a 660 2GB simply for smoother FPS

What should I go for and is the CPU still ok for now? I dont really want to upgrade the whole system until the next gen consoles come out

 

[Martini1991]

Game depending you might see some bottlenecking, but you're going to see the difference over the 560, and bottleneck won't be too severe at all.

 

[Marine-RX179]

As said above...games dependent.

But generally speaking, an overclocked i5 for example would be far more capable of holding frame rate at 50~60fp+ than a overclocked Phenom II X4, when GPU is not the bottleneck.

But I'd think your GTX560 is already a good balance with your current CPU.

 

['Wes]

I get a bottleneck on my 7970 with my 965.

 

[Gregster]

I get a bottleneck on my 7970 with my 965.

Much?

 

['Wes]

Much?

Not a lot to not purchase one, but it's there which is expected tbh.

I did overclock it to 4GHz which made it less of a problem.

 

[Gregster]

Not a lot to not purchase one, but it's there which is expected tbh.

I did overclock it to 4GHz which made it less of a problem.

I am interested in minimum fps. I have read many articles on bottlenecks and the effects and it seems that it generally only hinders the max fps. Do you agree or am I wrong?

If you have BF3 for example, would you mind looking on single player?

 

[Martini1991]

I am interested in minimum fps. I have read many articles on bottlenecks and the effects and it seems that it generally only hinders the max fps. Do you agree or am I wrong?

If you have BF3 for example, would you mind looking on single player?

CPU limitation would hit min/max/average.
BF3 single player his 965 probably pushes his 7970 perfectly, but something like Shogun 2? He'd bog down far more than an i5 3570k clocked the same percentage.

 

[Marine-RX179]

CPU limitation would hit min/max/average.
BF3 single player his 965 probably pushes his 7970 perfectly, but something like Shogun 2? He'd bog down far more than an i5 3570k clocked the same percentage.

Yea...it's all down to how much dynamic things that occur at the same time...and if too many things happening at the same time, a Phenom II X4 or Core2Quad could easily bottleneck a high-end card, and by no small margin as well.

 

['Wes]

CPU limitation would hit min/max/average.
BF3 single player his 965 probably pushes his 7970 perfectly, but something like Shogun 2? He'd bog down far more than an i5 3570k clocked the same percentage.

Yeah, BF:3 is fine in single player, multiplayer is a different story however, it ranges from 32-45 fps, but it usually lingers around 36-37 fps.

 

[Gregster]

Ahhh ok cheers guys. I remember reading a post on OCN and the guy did some extensive testing with a bottlenecked CPU and a 3770K (guessing). He found that only sims affected the minimums and the rest of the games were only top fps affected.

 

[Gregster]

Ahhh ok cheers guys. I remember reading a post on OCN and the guy did some extensive testing with a bottlenecked CPU and a 3770K (guessing). He found that only sims affected the minimums and the rest of the games were only top fps affected.

Yeah, BF:3 is fine in single player, multiplayer is a different story however, it ranges from 32-45 fps, but it usually lingers around 36-37 fps.

Ouch!

 

[Martini1991]

Yeah, BF:3 is fine in single player, multiplayer is a different story however, it ranges from 32-45 fps, but it usually lingers around 36-37 fps.

Ouch, I don't play BF3 MP, I don't care for BF3, I dislike the visual style of these new engines too, how much of a bottleneck is the CPU in MP to get that range?

 

[tommybhoy]

Phenom II x4 970(close enough) & Phenom II x6 1090T BE - Gaming Performance HD 7970:

http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=828&page=0



AMD gpu performance is usually higher on your current setup than its Nvidia equivalent.

 

[Martini1991]

Results seem whack, AVP seems horribly low?

 

[Gregster]

Phenom II x4 970(close enough) & Phenom II x6 1090T BE - Gaming Performance HD 7970:

http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=828&page=0



AMD gpu performance is usually higher on your current setup than its Nvidia equivalent.

Good find again Timmy Not that much of a bottleneck on any of them to be honest. I thought the 1090T would have done better.

Results seem whack, AVP seems horribly low?

It does. A few of us did the test but maybe they have altered settings compared to what we used. I can't remember off hand but pretty sure we was all above 100fps with 680/7970 systems.

 

[Martini1991]

Good find again Timmy Not that much of a bottleneck on any of them to be honest. I thought the 1090T would have done better.

Unfortunately, because the results do seem that out of whack, is it reliable given we don't know settings?

It does. A few of us did the test but maybe they have altered settings compared to what we used. I can't remember off hand but pretty sure we was all above 100fps with 680/7970 systems.

Then we can't draw any real conclusions till we know settings.

 

[Gregster]

Alien vs Predator DX11 Benchmark








Texture Quality

Very High



Shadow Quality

High



Hardware Tesselation

Yes



Advance Shadow Sampling

Yes



Full Srceen Anti-Aliasing Samples

4x



Anisotropic Filtering

16x



SSAO

On



Screen Resolution

1920 x 1080

The settings used for AVP. They are higher than the defaults.

 

[Martini1991]

I've ran AVP at those settings and gotten higher results.

 

[Relentless81]

Im not sure I want an AMD card I've never had an issue with NVIDIA or is that shooting myself in the foot?

Not sure by the comments if its worth changing at this point, might just stick with the 560 until the next gen consoles come out