Is piracy dying?

stuman said:
yes, it does indeed seem like we are getting there!

has taken a few years, but there is progress being made.

the price has come down to a reasonable amount and the method of obtaining it is slick and getting better all the time.

i honestly don't feel the need to pirate anymore.

you would honestly have to be very, very cheap to pirate any large amount anymore.
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Same here.

However I'm annoyed at the way NowTV operate, otherwise I'd have a subscription with them too. (I disagree with it being cheaper to buy the hardware and get a free pass than to just buy a pass, it's a waste of resources).
 
It's publicly dying because its all going private once again. Also as mentioned above, there are a lot more options for streaming films/tv for free now and for the 'casual pirate' that's way more straight forward.
 
SC0TTRS said:
Piracy is evolving and most now stream instead of download with more and more people using a box and a small Android figure ;)
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Well let's just say that the raspberry pi I had laying around has found a purpose afrer all! :D
 
Music piracy has been very much reduced to a low level due largely in part to iTunes and Spotify. Subscription services are cheap enough and good enough that piracy isn't worth the time.

Movie/TV Show piracy is still very much with us though, largely due to fragmented streaming services and geo content restrictions. Netflix and Amazon aren't reducing piracy in the same way the Spotify did due to the limited catalogs and new content. They're essentially new TV networks which is leading to consumers not being able to easily access all the content they want as a reasonable price. Whilst this has moved from P2P to newsgroups, it's still very much alive.
 
Narj said:
Well let's just say that the raspberry pi I had laying around has found a purpose afrer all! :D
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Your ISP will still be logging all your traffic, and companies can ask your ISP to hand over all logs of traffic to sift through it all for illegal activity. Just because you're streaming and not 'downloading' doesn't mean you're safe.
 
bloodiedathame said:
Your ISP will still be logging all your traffic, and companies can ask your ISP to hand over all logs of traffic to sift through it all for illegal activity. Just because you're streaming and not 'downloading' doesn't mean you're safe.
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If people do this they really should set up kodi to use a vpn for all traffic. Its easy to do and costs ~ £30 a year.
 
I used to torrent daily, share stuff on my uni's network and with friends etc. Had TBs of the stuff. Now I haven't touched a torrent in years.

One change is I now subscribe to Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Prime and Sky Go and other on-demand services have come on leaps and bounds like 4od, iPlayer etc.

Another is broadband speeds have improved. When I was at uni streaming a film was a non-option, so downloading overnight or across a couple of days was the only way to do it.

The other change is me, and that's purely that I have less time to watch content so have less need to download reams and reams of the stuff.
 
While it isn't anywhere near dead, it isn't as active as it used to be. I think with certain things, they are now cheap enough or have a cheap legal alternative. I do think some specific applications that cost a lot of money to purchase will continue to see the likes of piracy.
 
Surely people saying they don't download but do stream are just in fact downloading but not saving the file lol.

It's the same thing in the eyes of a ISP?
 
bloodiedathame said:
Your ISP will still be logging all your traffic, and companies can ask your ISP to hand over all logs of traffic to sift through it all for illegal activity. Just because you're streaming and not 'downloading' doesn't mean you're safe.
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they only bother for uploading though.

it costs way to much to chase for the cost of the product.
 
I have Netflix and it's good. Still irks me that to get the best content I have to use a VPN and connect to an American data-centre. Pees me off paying subscribers can't get access to the same content as the Yanks :(
 
Nope - its massive still, mainly streaming. I overheard half the office talking about their hacked fire tv sticks last week. All installing Kodi and watching movies from it
 
I only download films etc that I have purchased the main reason being that once I've say watched a bluray on my player and enjoyed it at it's best quality, I'd like to be able to have it on my media server so I can watch it again without messing about with disk again etc, or be able to watch it in my bedroom or on my tablet etc. For me the best way of doing so is to find a good bluray rip to download as the versions I find online are much better and smaller and far less time consuming than me ripping my own disc and then having to mess about trying to find decent settings to end up with a small but good quality version for my server. If the discs came with a file I could simply copy to my server and would work with Plex, that would be marvellous for me.
 
Personally i think its a bad as ever but with fast broadband at home and on mobiles its just streaming websites.

The amount of my friends who I see posts of fb saying they are watching the latest films at the cinemas at home and quite often it even says on the update which film straaming website they are using amazes me.

It just seems the accepted norm to be okay to stream movies/music only illegally.

Look at hoe many kodi boxes are sold. 99% of them are used to stream films illegally.

Nobody can be bothered with torrents ore usenet anymore downloading stuff to their pc and then having to copy it to play on their tv when its instant watch now.
 
valve90210 said:
I only download films etc that I have purchased the main reason being that once I've say watched a bluray on my player and enjoyed it at it's best quality, I'd like to be able to have it on my media server so I can watch it again without messing about with disk again etc, or be able to watch it in my bedroom or on my tablet etc. For me the best way of doing so is to find a good bluray rip to download as the versions I find online are much better and smaller and far less time consuming than me ripping my own disc and then having to mess about trying to find decent settings to end up with a small but good quality version for my server. If the discs came with a file I could simply copy to my server and would work with Plex, that would be marvellous for me.
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The thing the bugs me about UV codes is that you can buy a bluray but the uv for downloading it to yoru phone or pc is SD quality only :(
 
bloodiedathame said:
Your ISP will still be logging all your traffic, and companies can ask your ISP to hand over all logs of traffic to sift through it all for illegal activity. Just because you're streaming and not 'downloading' doesn't mean you're safe.
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As mentioned above, any content streamed isn't actually stored anywhere so even if someone were to access content illegally, getting evidence would be very difficult indeed. There's always a VPN if you're a heavy user of "alternative" sources.

The industry seems to be waking up anyway - provide easy, cheap access to the content and the vast majority of people will pay for it.

As for games, I don't think I've pirated a game since about 2009. Steam/GoG and other platforms put paid to that.
 
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bloodiedathame said:
Your ISP will still be logging all your traffic, and companies can ask your ISP to hand over all logs of traffic to sift through it all for illegal activity. Just because you're streaming and not 'downloading' doesn't mean you're safe.
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Plenty of ways to hide your footprint my friend.

Narj said:
As mentioned above, any content streamed isn't actually stored anywhere so even if someone were to access content illegally, getting evidence would be very difficult indeed. There's always a VPN if you're a heavy user of "alternative" sources.

The industry seems to be waking up anyway - provide easy, cheap access to the content and the vast majority of people will pay for it.

As for games, I don't think I've pirated a game since about 2009. Steam/GoG and other platforms put paid to that.
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Also if you're using SSL Encryption which Usenet provides.
 
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