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Is the 5700x3d going to feel slower outside of games than a 2700x/5700x?

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I have been looking at upgrades for my 2700x, just feels a bit sluggish in newer titles like buldars gate 3 and WoW, I know i only have a 2060super right now but soon i will upgrade. So i was looking at a 5700x for a while then the 5700x3d came out which seems to be a good bit better in games but outside of that it seems to be slower than a 5700x. I have read a lot about this chip and some people are saying they feel sluggish when the extra cache cant be utilised so anything outside of gaming really.

My question is will the 5700x3d feel snappier than my current 2700x outside of games? I expect it will feel faster in games but what about web browsing/photo editing etc.

And then would the 5700x feel snappier than the 5700x3d outside of games? I guess it will but is it noticable day to day?

I think the 3d variant is the better idea since it is just such a huge boost in games but you guys will know better i'm sure.
 
chickadee said:
I have the budget for the 5700x3d but not the 5800x3d, it also seems to be a very hot chip which is rather annoying and not THAT much better performance than the 5700 variant.
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It’s about 100 watts. The 5700X3D maybe is slightly less. The 5700X3D should be significantly faster.
 
chickadee said:
My question is will the 5700x3d feel snappier than my current 2700x outside of games? I expect it will feel faster in games but what about web browsing/photo editing etc.
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The 5700X3D is still a Zen 3 CPU and has much higher single and multi thread performance than the 2700X, so assuming there's no boost shenanigans it should definitely not feel slower in web browsing or photo editing.

chickadee said:
And then would the 5700x feel snappier than the 5700x3d outside of games? I guess it will but is it noticeable day to day?
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The single thread performance is a small chunk higher, but I'd be surprised if this was observable in normal usage.
 
chickadee said:
I have been looking at upgrades for my 2700x, just feels a bit sluggish in newer titles like buldars gate 3 and WoW, I know i only have a 2060super right now but soon i will upgrade. So i was looking at a 5700x for a while then the 5700x3d came out which seems to be a good bit better in games but outside of that it seems to be slower than a 5700x. I have read a lot about this chip and some people are saying they feel sluggish when the extra cache cant be utilised so anything outside of gaming really.

My question is will the 5700x3d feel snappier than my current 2700x outside of games? I expect it will feel faster in games but what about web browsing/photo editing etc.

And then would the 5700x feel snappier than the 5700x3d outside of games? I guess it will but is it noticable day to day?

I think the 3d variant is the better idea since it is just such a huge boost in games but you guys will know better i'm sure.
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upgrades depends what bottlenecks and holds back whatever you do.
cpu upgrade is one key for overall work more so than the gpu.
 
I ordered a 5800x3d since it was only £20 more than the 5700x3d, will see how it performs when it comes tomorrow. Will prep my Noctua D15, what a cooler, I won it about 15 years ago and its been used on everything since, its unstoppable. Its been on a core2duo e6600, i7 920, xeon x5660, i7 2700x and now the 5800x3d.
 
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For anyone wondering the 5800x3d has made my PC feel like a brand new machine, i was getting 40fps in Valdraken in WoW before, now im getting 140fps on the same settings, thats with a 2060super, i can bump the graphics up now and have the solid 60fps. Just normal usage on the PC feels so snappy. Its a bit of a warm CPU, idle about 35c, during game about 60c and benchmark at 100% is 80c using a D15.
 
Outside of games? I couldn't tell the difference between my FX-8350, Ryzen 2700, and Ryzen 5700X.

All that matters for that 'snappier feeling' outside of games / in general use is an SSD and not running out of RAM as far as I can tell, plus a high refresh rate monitor for that smooth mousing if you're sensitive to that.

I think I'd have to go back to a Core2Duo or similar to feel CPU limited in general usage.
 
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Vexr said:
Outside of games? I couldn't tell the difference between my FX-8350, Ryzen 2700, and Ryzen 5700X.

All that matters for that 'snappier feeling' outside of games / in general use is an SSD and not running out of RAM as far as I can tell, plus a high refresh rate monitor for that smooth mousing if you're sensitive to that.

I think I'd have to go back to a Core2Duo or similar to feel CPU limited in general usage.
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Cache makes or can make a big difference.
 
jigger said:
Cache makes or can make a big difference.
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Yes, in games or anything that places significant demands on cache.

Core2Duo had 6 MB. FX-8350 had 8 MB. The Ryzen 2700 had 16 MB. 5700X had 32 MB.

My FX-8350 was indistinguishable from a 5700X, which will be indistinguishable from a 7800X3D in casual browsing / general usage tasks, and that ain't due to the cache.
 
Vexr said:
Yes, in games or anything that places significant demands on cache.

Core2Duo had 6 MB. FX-8350 had 8 MB. The Ryzen 2700 had 16 MB. 5700X had 32 MB.

My FX-8350 was indistinguishable from a 5700X, which will be indistinguishable from a 7800X3D in casual browsing / general usage tasks, and that ain't due to the cache.
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Or a bloated desktop OS spooling up/down fluff.
 
jigger said:
Or a bloated desktop OS spooling up/down fluff.
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I wasn't saying any of these processors (not including the Core2Duo) were struggling. My point is that they all respond instantaneously in general usage tasks so long as the work is off an SSD.
 
Vexr said:
I wasn't saying any of these processors (not including the Core2Duo) were struggling. My point is that they all respond instantaneously in general usage tasks so long as the work is off an SSD.
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I have noticed cache helps. Much faster than RAM> drive and back. Especially some consumer drives.
 
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