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Is there a point in getting a Ryzen 1800X at all?

xcalibur

xcalibur

xcalibur

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Hi,

Once in about 5-4 years I invest a small fortune on a gaming PC.
Now that Ryzen is here and Vega is right around the corner, it is time to say goodbye to my trusty old per of 7970 Lightning and the good ol' Intel i7 3820.
I was more than positive I'd go for an 1800X build but now that people with 1700 OC to 4GHZ with ease and yet no one hardly surpasses 4GHZ with an 1800X, I see less and less good reasons to shell out the extra $150. As the matter of fact, I cant find even one single reason to get the 1800X.

What do you guys think?

Thanks
X
 
I can't think of a reason to go for the 1800x over the 1700 either.
I think you can more reliably get 4 to 4.1 GHz with the 1800X but even if you have a 1700 that finds it hard to be at 4.0 it will easily get to just a smidge off it.
 
They're definetly binned better and hit 4GHz more reliably than the 1700 and 1700X, and at lower voltages. Silicon Lottery's testing had 26% of 1700s reach 4GHz, 29% of 1700Xs and 74% of 1800Xs.

Whether 100-200MHz is worth another £150 though... probably not.
 
I'd recommend the 1700 from what I have seen and observed with reviews etc

You are in a similar situation to what I was, I upgraded from an ancient system, so regardless of it being 1800x, 1700 you will see a big difference. But definitely 1700, Invest the difference in possibly something else? towards monitor, gpu etc maybe :)
 
When people note the 1700 being the chip of choice for many do they mean the 1700 and not the 1700x..?
 
xcalibur said:
Yes. Its the cheapest of the 3 which is very capable of reaching the most expensives performance.
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Thanks, not followed the Ryzen discussions too closely and I got the impression that some were mixing up the two chips, that can happen when you are skimping threads tho.
 
xcalibur said:
What about temperatures then?
Id imagine the 1800x come in a lot cooler, no?
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At stock volts/clocks with my Corsair H110i GT fans manually set to 500RPM I see idle temps of 21'c and load temps of 41'c on the 1800X and that's in a warm'ish room so temps are pretty good.
 
My 1800X sits at 4GHz with ease, at well under 1.4v (around 1.355v at the moment) and can bench at upto 4.2GHz, some even more. It's a better chip than the 1700 for sure, it's whether or not you want to pay the extra.
 
The only reason to go for a 1800x imho is if you are really environmentally conscious and want to use cool'n'quiet or really don't want to overclock your cpu. Else, get the 1700 & overclock it.
 
NeoWave said:
The only reason to go for a 1800x imho is if you are really environmentally conscious and want to use cool'n'quiet or really don't want to overclock your cpu. Else, get the 1700 & overclock it.
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Why wouldn't you use Cool'n'Quiet whilst overclocking an R7 1700? I use SpeedStep and C-States with my overclock without issues.
 
Well most of the 1800x I've seen just work in minutes at 4.0- 4.1, the 1700 takes a lot of effort. They also tend to have lower voltage requirements leading to less heat and presumably more stability. Ultimately if you can then spend the extra £100 you only do this every 5 years, I did and don't regret it.
 
DragonQ said:
Why wouldn't you use Cool'n'Quiet whilst overclocking an R7 1700? I use SpeedStep and C-States with my overclock without issues.
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If you manually set the multiplier AMD Cool'n'Quiet is disabled, or was when I lasted looked. Happy to be corrected.
 
If you're not quite as limited on budget the 1700x is probably the one to go for as it's very likely to achieve a slightly higher clock at a lower voltage. I'd pay that bit extra for wanting 4.0.
 
Companies will buy it for sure, where they're not going to overclock 1700s. Enthusiasts probably aren't going to buy it. I think AMD's aware of this, the 1800x isn't targeted at people who use this forum.
 
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