Is there a word for...

Royality · 19 Jan 2007 at 19:08

RandomTom said:
\o/ no, but I enjoyed it last year, sorry if I seemed a tad arrogant in that post.

Don't worry I got a similar grade.

SideWinder · 19 Jan 2007 at 19:09

I feel intelligent, i knew the answer to this. Stupid 'The Great Gatsby'...sick of that book now...exam
in June about it. <3

Royality · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:18

Okay, I've got another question.

Is 'a long minute' a tautology?

Psyk · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:18

Royality said:
Is there a word that means 'some one who promotes equality'

Not-a-feminist?

Psyk · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:21

Royality said:
Okay, I've got another question.

Is 'a long minute' a tautology?

Don't think so, or at least not in the context of the word I know (which is from discrete maths, not english

). A tautology is something which is always true. Saying a minute is long doesn't really have any meaning by itself, since you're not comparing it to anything.

kitten_caboodle · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:27

Psyk said:
Not-a-feminist?

In the purest sense of the word feminist is someone who wants equality for both sexes, however what people perceive as 'feminists' are usually the opposite .

As for the question, an equalitarian is someone who adheres to and believes in the equality of all people. Not sure about promoting though :confused:

VIRII · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:27

SideWinder said:
I feel intelligent, i knew the answer to this. Stupid 'The Great Gatsby'...sick of that book now...exam
in June about it. <3

With the back of his hand Tom broke Myrtles nose.

I know the quote is not 100% accurate but I haven't read the book for a really long time, before you were born infact

Gatsby is really pretty good. You might enjoy it more when you are no longer being forced to study it.

Royality · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:29

Psyk said:
Don't think so, or at least not in the context of the word I know (which is from discrete maths, not english ). A tautology is something which is always true. Saying a minute is long doesn't really have any meaning by itself, since you're not comparing it to anything.

I know it has literary connotations aswell.

Extremly Average is a tautology for example.

Psyk · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:33

kitten_caboodle said:
In the purest sense of the word feminist is someone who wants equality for both sexes, however what people perceive as 'feminists' are usually the opposite .

I'm pretty sure women already have equal rights in this country (in fact I can only really think of issues where women have more rights than men) so it's impossible to really be a feminist in this day and age. Maybe I'm just being ignorant though.

kitten_caboodle · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:40

Psyk said:
I'm pretty sure women already have equal rights in this country (in fact I can only really think of issues where women have more rights than men) so it's impossible to really be a feminist in this day and age. Maybe I'm just being ignorant though.

Sorry dude but that's complete rubbish. Look at the glass ceiling that exists in many companies and the huge discrepancy between what men and women are paid for doing the same job. That's just one issue. There are many more.

The definition is as follows:

feminist

adjective
1. of or relating to or advocating equal rights for women; "feminist critique"

More importantly and relevant in this case:
noun
1. a supporter of feminism

Anyway, that's another thread.

Royality · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:44

kitten_caboodle said:
Sorry dude but that's complete rubbish. Look at the glass ceiling that exists in many companies and the huge discrepancy between what men and women are paid for doing the same job. That's just one issue. There are many more.

The definition is as follows:

feminist

adjective
1. of or relating to or advocating equal rights for women; "feminist critique"

More importantly and relevant in this case:
noun
1. a supporter of feminism

Anyway, that's another thread.

My original question was made because of my studies of 'A Thousand Acres' by Jane Smiley. It's a feminist retelling of King Lear so I'm not even sure equilitarian would be appropriate.

VIRII · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:45

kitten_caboodle said:
Look at the glass ceiling that exists in many companies and the huge discrepancy between what men and women are paid for doing the same job.

But it is transparent so I can't look at it

kitten_caboodle · 19 Jan 2007 at 20:47

VIRII said:
But it is transparent so I can't look at it

I'm sure if there was a lady in a short skirt standing on it you'd find a way to work out where it was

Vonhelmet · 19 Jan 2007 at 21:17

Eh? Extremely average would surely be a contradiction, not a tautology.

VIRII · 19 Jan 2007 at 21:44

kitten_caboodle said:
I'm sure if there was a lady in a short skirt standing on it you'd find a way to work out where it was

You mean she can't really levitate?

Royality · 19 Jan 2007 at 22:41

vonhelmet said:
Eh? Extremely average would surely be a contradiction, not a tautology.

No, saying someone was good and bad would be a contradiction(or maybe a paradox?!). Tautology is like multiplying by 0, you can't be more average than average can you? Being average is absolute. Therfore being extremely average is the same as being average... I think.

EDIT:

Actually that's not a tautology. A tautology is maybe, Averagely moderate?

1.'needless repetition of an idea, esp. in words other than those of the immediate context, without imparting additional force or clearness, as in “widow woman.”'
2.'an instance of such repetition.'

Vonhelmet · 19 Jan 2007 at 22:47

Royality said:
No, saying someone was good and bad would be a contradiction(or maybe a paradox?!). Tautology is like multiplying by 0, you can't be more average than average can you? Being average is absolute. Therfore being extremely average is the same as being average... I think.

Fair enough. It's kinda more redundant than tautologous, though some would say they are the same thing.

Arguably it's entirely illogical to be extremely average, whereas a tautology is kinda overly logical, in a way.

Psyk · 19 Jan 2007 at 22:54

kitten_caboodle said:
Anyway, that's another thread.

Indeed it is.

arty · 19 Jan 2007 at 23:34

Royality said:
When, in literature, the weather of a scene represents that of the mood (or actions) of characters?

Anthropomorphic obnubilation?

arty

Eriedor · 19 Jan 2007 at 23:54

Royality said:
No, saying someone was good and bad would be a contradiction(or maybe a paradox?!). Tautology is like multiplying by 0, you can't be more average than average can you? Being average is absolute. Therfore being extremely average is the same as being average... I think.

EDIT:

Actually that's not a tautology. A tautology is maybe, Averagely moderate?

1.'needless repetition of an idea, esp. in words other than those of the immediate context, without imparting additional force or clearness, as in “widow woman.”'
2.'an instance of such repetition.'

By that definition i would say that a "long minute" is not a tautology. How long you perceive a minute to be is completely subjective and therefore is not a needless repetition if one perceives a minute to be short.

Saying "a long minute" would mean that you perceived the time frame to be longer than you usually do.

that was all a big ramble hope it can be understood :confused: