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lol i'll have a look at the BenQ then, aslong as its a propper 24" and not 23.75 or something daft i'll get that.
Is there anything wrong with this build ?
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thats not too bad, little cheaper than my original but im not too keen on that 'ThemalTake' cpu rad, definately not a fan of solidstate drives either, they seem over-rated and over-priced. sure they may be fast, safe and secure but i don't plan on dropping my rig down the stairs and im not sure that the speed is that noticeable.
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here's my current setup (give or take).
Very happy with it. I don't see the need to go with the 1090T. Bulldozer coming out in a year or two. I'm sure a 1055T will see it through until then, and then some.
Very happy with it. I don't see the need to go with the 1090T. Bulldozer coming out in a year or two. I'm sure a 1055T will see it through until then, and then some.
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that looks good but i'll swap out the SSHD, up the cpu, and the RAM, i'd like at least 8Gb ram and the CooliT cpu cooler.
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yeah, the Crucial SSD over the reactor. an extra £20. But whatever, you don't like them! 
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Sure, it's your money. Love my SSD though. Although the rig is no slouch to start with.
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I made a lengthy post explaining about OCZ Gold memory here but you didn't reply? . . . now in a completely different thread you again make a statement that is unfounded . . . there is no evidence at all as the "single" post you cited as proof doesn't exist . .
If you do not wish to spec OCZ gold for people that's your call but may I ask politely that you do not continue your scaremongering unless you have a case based on fact or sound evidence . . .
Sorry if this comes across like a nag and thanks in advance for your co-operation!
4GB (2x2GB) OCZ Gold DDR3-1600 Cas 8
£99.00 inc £89.00 inc This Week Only!
stulid,
I made a lengthy post explaining about OCZ Gold memory here but you didn't reply? . . . now in a completely different thread you again make a statement that is unfounded . . . there is no evidence at all as the "single" post you cited as proof doesn't exist . .
If you do not wish to spec OCZ gold for people that's your call but may I ask politely that you do not continue your scaremongering unless you have a case based on fact or sound evidence . . .
Sorry if this comes across like a nag and thanks in advance for your co-operation!
4GB (2x2GB) OCZ Gold DDR3-1600 Cas 8
£99.00 inc £89.00 inc This Week Only!
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its a very well founded comment, as I proved with that link, why would someone working for ocuk, agree with a comment about how many dead ocz gold memory sticks turn up all to regularly.
the problem is clearly real, so deal with it, just because you don't have an issue with yours is great.
some toyota car drivers haven't had problems with their accelerator pedals, doesn't mean their wasn't a serious issue.
I sure the OP would prefer to kill any potential issues by getting a ram kit that as far as im aware, haven't seen anyone moaning about it being DOA.
plus the reaper ram has better timings.
the problem is clearly real, so deal with it, just because you don't have an issue with yours is great.
some toyota car drivers haven't had problems with their accelerator pedals, doesn't mean their wasn't a serious issue.
I sure the OP would prefer to kill any potential issues by getting a ram kit that as far as im aware, haven't seen anyone moaning about it being DOA.
plus the reaper ram has better timings.
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It's not a problem as far as I know . . . I have not seen any evidence that backs up your point . . . your the one making the statement so the burden of proof lay with you? . . . where is your proof? . . . where is your evidence?
You cannot prove something by saying it again and again (Argumentum ad nauseam) because no matter how many times you repeat something, it will not become any more or less true than it was in the first place
Is that the problem? . . . are you suggesting that if someone buys the OCZ Gold DDR3 they will be DOA? . . . Is there a thread about this or is your entire arguement and scaremongering based on something that doesn't exist?
If the problem is clearly real do you think OcUK would sell the item? . . . . if the problem was clearly real do you think OcUK or a forum user would have made an official thread about it? . . . . if the problem was clearly real do you think I would suggest to people that they should buy OCZ gold DDR3
If you cannot supply an overwhelming amount of evidence to back up your statement I put it to you that the problem doesn't exist and that in reality you are doing nothing more than causing aggitation and increased build costs ££ . . . . if you can supply an overwhelming amount of evidence I will personally thank you and assume I just got lucky with the two sets I purchased? . . . does that sound reasonable to you?
You may not realise what you are doing but this is pure and simple Scaremongering . . . people building new systems and asking for help are jittery folk and your increasing their build costs £££ by scaring them off this affordable kit?
Aye it does and should the person building their system feel that the lower timings are worth an extra £6.99 then let them buy it . . . but if they are working to a tight budget and feel like the OCZ gold fits the build then let them buy it, don't scare people off
I have already posted links to the comments in that previous thread about ocz gold memory, why would a comment such as that be made i wonder? if there wasnt something wrong.
Its also not hard to search the internet for other users complaining about OCZ gold memory,
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1522843&highlight=ocz+gold
http://omgili.com/reviews/D8F04B7C6...esktop-Memory-Model-OCZ3G1600LV6GK-@2d-Retail
google's your friend.
also noticied some ocz gold hate in the memory forum,
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18162631
Its also not hard to search the internet for other users complaining about OCZ gold memory,
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1522843&highlight=ocz+gold
http://omgili.com/reviews/D8F04B7C6...esktop-Memory-Model-OCZ3G1600LV6GK-@2d-Retail
google's your friend.
also noticied some ocz gold hate in the memory forum,
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18162631
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seems like there is an underlying issue here 
and i am happy to see that there is a debate going on, it's great to see such strong opinions on something that most people would just brush off their shoulders.
Thank you
and i am happy to see that there is a debate going on, it's great to see such strong opinions on something that most people would just brush off their shoulders.Thank you
Pardon me SnowmanDev, I am trying to drum some sense into this new forum member who has taken it upon himself to preach falsehoods on OcUK forums . . . .seems like there is an underlying issue here
The reason I originally posted some specs in this thread was to help you or at least give you a considered opinion of what I think you "need" . . . I'm not charging you for my time, I genuinely believe I am helping . . . fair enough you don't like the specs and want to perhaps spend more money than you really need to be spending, thats your call and your perfectly entitled to do with your wonga as you please . . . . just as I am perfectly entitled to recommend you great bang-for-buck kit that will work fine . . . .
What I object too is someone professing knowledge that they do not posses and have no proof, stulid criticized my spec in this thread, he criticized my spec in another thread and in his mind he is entitled to keep criticizing my specs as long as I use OCZ gold . . . I'm just taking a stand in this thread and hopefully can get the matter resolved once and for all!
The OCZ gold may not be for everyone but I would like to continue recommending it to people looking for a bargain without somebody scaring people off based on a figment of their own imagination! . . . .
I've bought two sets of this very RAM for clients and its great value and works fine!
i havent criticized your spec, just alerting the OP and you to issues with the OCZ gold memory, I have provided links to many complaints about dead sticks, amd multiple RMA's,
more so than any other memory, its surprising just looking around the net, how many people have said the sticks are dead before they even use them.
the fact you have stated you own a pair, probably suggests some kind of purchase justification issue.
more so than any other memory, its surprising just looking around the net, how many people have said the sticks are dead before they even use them.
the fact you have stated you own a pair, probably suggests some kind of purchase justification issue.
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I can understand where you are both coming from and i will take both sides into account when purchasing memory and anything other that has been mentioned.
I think you do have a point in that the OCZ mem is a decent and cheaper option, but most people like things to work out of the box, i am also one of these people, but if it turned out that mem was dead i would be happy to return it and request replacements.
The links you have posted do not exist . . . . I repeat they do not exist . . . you have posted nothing? . . . if you did it doesn't exist now?
I cannot see any evidence or proof their is a serious issue with OCZ gold here can you?
You have flown off into the world of fantasy and made a very unreasonable judgement based on nothing? . . . I would ask you politely (again) to not Scaremonger people . . . . look at the definition of scare-mongering (or Fear-Mongering) and does it not describe exactly what you are doing?
"Fear mongering (or scaremongering) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic" - Wikipedia
stulid, I know you are new to debating but please don't take this discussion personally, I am totally impartial and only respond to logic, evidence and fact . . . what you need to understand is that when you (stulid) make a accusation on the interweb the burden of proof lay with you . . . and you alone . . . the latin for this is semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit which translates as "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges"
You are laying the charges so I am absolutely within my rights to ask that you demonstrate your proof in order than I may ascertain whether you are a useful, knowledgable OcUK forum member who is working for the benefit of the community and offering advice that is both reasonable and accurate . . . When I ask you to supply your proof please do not inform me that "google is my friend" and shove me off to supply the proof to back up your claims . . . it doesn't work like that!
stulids evidence that OCZ Gold is likey to be DOA or cause the end user serious problems here (nothing, dead link)
The thread above from March 2010 contains tens posts in total, three posters (diesavagenation, E4g1e, wildzcardz) comment on quality-control issues and not being able to get the memory running at stock speed on an AMD system? . . . . do they know what they are doing? . . . are we going to not recommend hardware based on what a few [Hard]Forum users think? . . . . If we only recommend hardware that does not cause a problem for a few users somewhere in the world then we would not be able to recommend a single piece of computer hardware!
The above link is not valid proof that OCZ gold DDR3 is not to be recommended and you are not entitled to scaremonger from the hear say or a few users?
The link above essentially links directly to an american competitors customers reviews which shows some people have had problems with OCZ gold but the over-whelming majority of people have classed this memory as "Excellent" and according to the overall consensus the OCZ gold is "Good" . . . having a few users rant about hardware not working is either the hardware genuinely not working or they really don't know how to install and set-up memory correctly . . . . as said already a portion of computer hardware no matter what brand it is or how expensive it is will turn up either DOA or faulty, that is the nature of the beast and those that have been working with hardware for many years will know this is the truth . .
Anyone who can't handle the slight chance some item of hardware will arrive DOA needs to not be involved in the computer scene because its gonna happen . . and when it does if they can't handle their bad dice roll then they turn into a seething rant machine and "broadcast" their dissatisfaction across the interweb . . . this in turn gets picked up by the "Parrots" who continue the scaremongering based on the testimony of a tiny percentage of users worldwide . . . .
stulid, I have done nothing but be polite with you and ask you to be reasonable . . . in the time it has taken me to try and help you see sense I could have been helping a lot of other people, either with specs or with trouble-shooting or just some random Bang-for-Buck philosophy . . .
You are not within your rights to scare people away from hardware you feel is likey to be DOA based on the evidence or a few forum users . . . it's just not acceptable . . . you have been a member of these forums for only 6 months and have been making an average of 24 posts a day . . . Potentially you are a real asset to OcUK forums but if you make a fundamental mistake the ramifications of pumping out 24 posts a day based on flawed reasoning is pretty bad news!
Not only that but now you are beginning to Troll me and seem intent on dragging this discussion across as many threads as you can? . . . this is not what the forums are about my friend, we are meant to discuss things maturely and reasonably and work togther on solving problems . . . the only problem that needs solving here is your hatred for OCZ gold memory . . .
I have no idea why you are on a one man fear-mongering campaign to spread libelous and untrue claims across the InterWeb but tread carefully as your turning this scenario into a Self-fulfilling prophecy where you are creating the bad feeling towards this product yourself? . . .
I don't think you have much knowledge of this memory? . . . I don't think you have any first hand experience of this memory and yet you are taking some high-ground and profess to know which products are safe to use and which are not?
I encourage you to cease & desist your actions immediately until such a time that you can provide reasonable evidence and a sound arguement . . .
If you want to discuss it further then do it now, if you raise this subject again in a separate thread I will have no choice but to RTM you!
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I provide the links you wanted in some other thread, you even commented on, how you don't know who the ocuk employee nathwraith is, or his position in ocuk.
so they must have been there for you to comment on! simple really.
theres no scaremongering here, just trying to save a potential pc builder, that may have low knowledge of pc components or fault finding, a lot of heartache.
you clearly don't enjoy a discussion as to why there are a lot of negative comments about the memory being DOA, on these forums and other forums.
this is your comment,
so what where you talking about if those links didnt exist?
so they must have been there for you to comment on! simple really.
theres no scaremongering here, just trying to save a potential pc builder, that may have low knowledge of pc components or fault finding, a lot of heartache.
you clearly don't enjoy a discussion as to why there are a lot of negative comments about the memory being DOA, on these forums and other forums.
this is your comment,
so what where you talking about if those links didnt exist?
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You made a statement that basically said don't buy the OCZ gold if you want an easy life? . . . I asked you to explain yourself and supply some proof? . . . you then linked me to a thread about the lack of 4GB modules in which the famous corsair representative "Yellowbeard" had posted, someone made a statement mocking OCZ, someone agreed . . .
Now even is these posts still existed the proof you needed would still be severely lacking . . . we don't scare people away from buying hardware because a handful of users world-wide have had problems . . . can you accept that?
stulid, I've been posting on these forums nearly seven years, I can honestly say I have no idea who NathWrath is? . . . I never saw his posts before and I have never interacted with him ever? . . . whatever he said was probably done is haste, could have been drunk? . . . the truth is whatever he said is not there now? . . . I didn't delete it did you?
One can say many silly things that they do not mean and later retract the statement and apologize . . . I don't see any Apology yet but I certainly see a retraction . . . why would this "mystical" guru figure of yours remove a statement he made? . . . if it was true and important why is it no longer there?
Tell me stulid, why are you intent on basing an arguement on some hearsay from someone we don't know to warn people away from a product that has worked well for the majority of users?
I put it to you that your reasoning in this discussion is flawed and that you are doing nothing more than perverting the truth to suit your own arguement, your own links you supply are entirely inconclusive and actually work against your own arguement by showing that the majority of users are happy with an affordable product?
Of course you are scaremongering, the above statement stands as testament of this truth!
Your basically saying if you want to save yourself some "heartache" then do yourself a favour and Don't buy the OCZ gold!
and this "low knowledge of pc components or fault finding" kinda implies that you profess knowledge of PC compoents and fault finding? . . yet you know very little about either subject yourself?
Your whole arguement is nothing more than a parrot fashion scaremongering campaign based on very little . . . there is no computer hardware we can recommend that is guaranteed to work . . . its computer hardware, it can be faulty . . . I will continue to recommend OCZ gold DDR3 and I will continue to help people in a reasonable and rational way and I urge you to not fly on and make wild assumptions and statements without supplying your burden of proof . . .
If I see you continue your scaremongering beyond this thread I will bring the subject to the attention of people that can resolve things better than I am able . . my next witness to be examined will be NathWrath as he and OcUK store has been implicated in this matter by yourself . .
