Is there nothing we won't do to win in Iraq?

Wang Computer said:
They're not loyal to Saddam's regime... This is the south of the country, remember, predominantly Shia.

Whether you agree with the invasion or not, the fact is that the British military is now there on the mandate of the Iraqi authorities. Any attack by alleged Iranian backed militants is, strictly speaking, an act of terrorism, given that no official state of war exists currently.
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Are they not considered rebel fighters?
 
“If you cornered it and poked it with a stick, then the smart money would be on the badger,” he said.

But he added: “We have not released giant badgers in Basra, and nor have we been collecting eggs and releasing serpents into the Shatt al-Arab river.
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lol
 
sr4470 said:
Doesn't matter which Iraqi faction shot it down, they're soldiers at war in a foreign country against natives of said country. Thus it is not "terrorist" at all, but a simple shoot-down...
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Natives? I reckon you pretty much guarantee that the majority of the so called 'insurgents', terrorists to everyone else but the loony left, are not Iraqi at all but are imported terrorists.
 
That'll learn'em.
Never mess with a British badger :D

To get control of Iraq all we have to do is reincarnate Saddam & put him back in power. Or we could find someone else hard & mad enouth to sort those nutters out.
The only way to control Savages is to get a Bigger/worse Savage & let him lose on them. Trying to get them to conform to our standards is laughable.


Note.
Yes i am completely Sick of all this *******, Nuke 'em. In fact Nuke Everyone then send them all back to hell.
 
Azagoth said:
Natives? I reckon you pretty much guarantee that the majority of the so called 'insurgents', terrorists to everyone else but the loony left, are not Iraqi at all but are imported terrorists.
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Its unlikely you can prove who exactly shot down the Lynx in the middle of an intense firefight, bearing in mind the number of official and unofficial militias in the country. I don't doubt that there are some foreigners fighting, but the military sources I've looked at put them at no more than 10% of the total estimated numbers.
 
I saw a documentary about these honey badgers on C5 a while ago. Hardcore mofo's tbh. They had footage of and old, sick one fighting off a leopard (the cat gave up in the end) :eek: I certainly wouldn't be happy if they suddenly started menacing the British countryside.
 
“If you cornered it and poked it with a stick, then the smart money would be on the badger,” he said.

But he added: “We have not released giant badgers in Basra, and nor have we been collecting eggs and releasing serpents into the Shatt al-Arab river.
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We do however take full responsibility for the growing numbers of mushrooms in the area.
 
sr4470 said:
Its unlikely you can prove who exactly shot down the Lynx in the middle of an intense firefight, bearing in mind the number of official and unofficial militias in the country. I don't doubt that there are some foreigners fighting, but the military sources I've looked at put them at no more than 10% of the total estimated numbers.
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Don't mean to be rude but this thread is about cow eating badgers not helicopters being shot down, unless of course its another hidden talent of the 'bear-like monster that eats humans and was, according to the local rumour mill, released into the area by UK forces to spread panic'. :p
 
Dr Demento said:
Don't mean to be rude but this thread is about cow eating badgers not helicopters being shot down, unless of course its another hidden talent of the 'bear-like monster that eats humans and was, according to the local rumour mill, released into the area by UK forces to spread panic'. :p
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Sorry, I apologise if that was a little off-topic RE: the badgers, but you could argue it is related to the thread title.
 
Dr Demento said:
Don't mean to be rude but this thread is about cow eating badgers not helicopters being shot down, unless of course its another hidden talent of the 'bear-like monster that eats humans and was, according to the local rumour mill, released into the area by UK forces to spread panic'. :p
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This is OcUK though! The only place where are a topic about 'How to keep fluffy bunnies fluffy' can turn into 'Send the buggers back' in a few posts! :p
 
Azagoth said:
This is OcUK though! The only place where are a topic about 'How to keep fluffy bunnies fluffy' can turn into 'Send the buggers back' in a few posts! :p
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We are discussing "Is there nothing we won't do to win in Iraq?", which could include spinning the destruction of a helicopter and its crew as a "terrorist attack" rather than a combat loss. Thus, in propaganda terms at least, "winning" the war.
 
sr4470 said:
We are discussing "Is there nothing we won't do to win in Iraq?", which could include spinning the destruction of a helicopter and its crew as a "terrorist attack" rather than a combat loss. Thus, in propaganda terms at least, "winning" the war.
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It is not a combat loss becuase there is no war in Iraq now. The regeime was defeated. Those that remain are not internationally recognised soldiers thus, there is no war.

The rights and wrongs of it are irrelevent - in exactly the same way that Russian losses in Chechenya are not 'combat losses'.
 
[TW]Fox said:
It is not a combat loss because there is no war in Iraq now.
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So by your definition, the war ended in 2003, and the conflict since then is a series of terrorist acts and retaliations?

Edit: and I suppose the UN troops in Kut surrendered to terrorists as well?
 
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sr4470 said:
Doesn't matter which Iraqi faction shot it down, they're soldiers at war in a foreign country against natives of said country. Thus it is not "terrorist" at all, but a simple shoot-down...
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I think that is what he is saying
 
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