Is this a good build, first time PC builder

thebirdfeede

thebirdfeede

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Hi,

My existing computer is aging and I want something that is a little furture proofed and will not struggle, I want to try and re-use some parts that I have already purchased try try and save a little. Let me know what you think of the following spec;

Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM

Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Vapor-X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card

Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP8G3D1609DS1S00CEU)

Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard

(comes to £501 all in)

I already have this:

Raijintek Aidos Direct Contact CPU Cooler

and this power supply, which I'm not sure whether it will be enough at 600watts, some build calulators seems to suggest I would need 650 but some suggested 450 would be fine :confused:

Corsair Builder Series CX 600W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020048-UK)

What are your thoughts, is there anything that could be changed and improved for similar costs?

Edit: Side note, I know I missing some other bits.
 
I'm not too hot on Intel, but the CPU, GPU & Motherboard look decent enough.

I would probably sack off that 16Gb of RAM and get 8Gb for the time being, it's plenty.
TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD38G1600HC9DC01)

Also you haven't mentioned it but an SSD would make your system fly.
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW)

With regards to the PSU it's decent enough but I would have probably got this one instead:
SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black

It's lower wattage but arguably a better & more stable unit. It would power the above no problem.
 
RJC said:
Personally look at the 4670k CPU and Z97 range of boards or if you can hold on Intel newer K series are coming out in June - the non K variants are already out.

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The build in question which I did for someone yesterday:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26327970&postcount=2
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Hadn't looked at the Haswell cpu's tbh, are they a newer version of the Ivy Bridge, dont know much about them? Is there much of the benefit between the Haswell and Ivy Bridge? Also the cost of 4670k was a bit more than I wanted to spend, I see they do a non K version of the 4670 (similar cost to the 3570K), do you know what difference is? Anything noticeable?


teh_captain said:
I'm not too hot on Intel, but the CPU, GPU & Motherboard look decent enough.

I would probably sack off that 16Gb of RAM and get 8Gb for the time being, it's plenty.
TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD38G1600HC9DC01)

Also you haven't mentioned it but an SSD would make your system fly.
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW)

With regards to the PSU it's decent enough but I would have probably got this one instead:
SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black

It's lower wattage but arguably a better & more stable unit. It would power the above no problem.
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I had thought of SSD but total cost of this project was kinda putting me off! Plus I already have a newish HD I can use but I put a 840 evo 750gb in my macbook a while back and that really made a butt load of improvement, so I know the benefits. Just not benefitting my wallet! ha.

In regards to the RAM I see your point, could save a bit there and ultimately upgrade at some point down the road if needs be. Thanks for your comment.
 
I've only recently built my 3rd rig (first in about 8 years if i'm honest) but adding an SSD into the mix is pretty much the best thing that's happened to PCs in a long time.

You can get better & faster processors/graphics over time but the operating speed of your entire system by adding an SSD is ridiculously fast compared to a mech drive :)
 
 
thebirdfeede said:
Hadn't looked at the Haswell cpu's tbh, are they a newer version of the Ivy Bridge, dont know much about them? Is there much of the benefit between the Haswell and Ivy Bridge? Also the cost of 4670k was a bit more than I wanted to spend, I see they do a non K version of the 4670 (similar cost to the 3570K), do you know what difference is? Anything noticeable?
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There is a slight performance increase with Haswell and very small increase with the newer set coming in June.

The socket 1155 is now obsolete and with the Z97 chipset this may offer some future upgrades.
 
Indeed, hw is a bit faster than ib. As mentioned, the new cpu's in june may be worth holding out for as theyre supposed to feature much better thermal paste and heatspreader than the current hw chips, (which can run very very hot). Theese will work fine in Z97 chipset boards but it is still unknown if they will work in the current Z87 range.
 
lee32uk said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £169.99
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Vapor-X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97P-D3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £69.95
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £55.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
Total : £511.51 (includes shipping : £8.00).




A 550W psu is plenty for that lot :)
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This is a good choice. An SSD is a must now as said.
The difference between the 4670 and 4670k is that the k can be overclocked. I would go for the 4670k personally but if you really dont want to spend the extra I would pick the 3570k over the 4670
 
lee32uk said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £169.99
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Vapor-X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97P-D3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £69.95
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £55.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
Total : £511.51 (includes shipping : £8.00).




A 550W psu is plenty for that lot :)
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los said:
This is a good choice. An SSD is a must now as said.
The difference between the 4670 and 4670k is that the k can be overclocked. I would go for the 4670k personally but if you really dont want to spend the extra I would pick the 3570k over the 4670
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Cheers guys, seems I have a spec now. Thanks for the advice.
 
I would really advise finding a bit more money and getting a better board. It is never a wise move to go for the cheapest board you can find only to realise later that it just isn't up to the job and have to buy a better one.
 
The Gigabyte board is fine for a budget build. If it was an ASRock board then I would agree :D

If you want something with more features then obviously you would need to spend more.
 
pastymuncher said:
I would really advise finding a bit more money and getting a better board. It is never a wise move to go for the cheapest board you can find only to realise later that it just isn't up to the job and have to buy a better one.
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lee32uk said:
The Gigabyte board is fine for a budget build. If it was an ASRock board then I would agree :D

If you want something with more features then obviously you would need to spend more.
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Thanks for the comments. I had a look through the specs of the mobo and it seems that it does everything I would need it to. That said this is my first build and open to suggestions, What more could I need from a motherboard that this board does not supply, taking into consideration the spec that I'm going for?

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Also, he only thing I am a little unsure of is the three "system fan headers" on the mobo, do these headers supply a variable fan speed depending on the system load, or are they just plain old flat out fan connectors?

As a side note, the case I'm going for is the "In-Win GRone", reason being is looks snazzy as hell :cool: and has 5 fans built in with a variable speed thing built in for all or some of them (not sure), and some other nice features.
 
If you are going to be overclocking (why get a k series cpu if you are not) then that board is likely to have a very cut down bios with limited options. A extra £20 gets you a Asus Z97-k which, if it turns out to be like it's Z87 forerunner, is a very good board for the money. It comes with a free set of headphones at the moment as well.
 
pastymuncher said:
If you are going to be overclocking (why get a k series cpu if you are not) then that board is likely to have a very cut down bios with limited options. A extra £20 gets you a Asus Z97-k which, if it turns out to be like it's Z87 forerunner, is a very good board for the money. It comes with a free set of headphones at the moment as well.
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Seems to be a good board, can anyone else weigh in on this one. Anybody used this board before?
 
 
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