Is this Safe?

zepzeppelin · 9 Jan 2013 at 12:04

Hello 8 Pack

I wonder can you tell me if the setting I just applied is safe for long term use? I was told that finding my Offset voltage would mean subtracting the VID from the core voltage, by this I mean loading the CPU under prime, opening CPU-Z and CoreTemp

CPU-Z reads my Core voltage as 1.463v and Core Temp reads the VID as 1.2710v so subtracting 1.2710 from 1.463 = 0.192. If I add +0.192 as an offset the figures turn red, is this safe or should I remove it back to default?

This is on a 3570k with a turbo ratio of x46 and everything else at default running Prime with the Offset applied and CPU-Z reads 1.344~1.352v however as soon as Prime hits the 8k tests temps hit 92c

Winston · 9 Jan 2013 at 12:09

Is you vcore set as auto when it's reaching 1.463? As that's quite high! What cooling are you on and what are your temps at that setting?

stuie · 9 Jan 2013 at 12:15

vid isnt vcore. vid is what its rated at the vcore in cupz is what its requesting at that speed. I would start again 1.463 is quite high and id be surprised if your temps arnt running out of control i certainly wouldnt want to run that for long. Drop back to stock and start again keeping your real cpuz vcore below 1.3 iv possible. Also 92 c is a lot you really need to be keeping it below 80c for day to day use.

Can i ask an question. Do you know what your doing? I dont mean that to sound harsh it just seems like youve read a post on the net somewhere where someone possibly running water or something has bumped up to 4.6 and youve read that and gone in heavy handed and possibly dangerously.

Reset to scratch and let us help you step by step

zepzeppelin · 9 Jan 2013 at 14:46

OK, Thanks for the replies: This is my setup: ASUS P8Z77-V LX/ 3570K/ Corsair Vengeance 12GB 1600MHz (9.9.9.24) Gainward GTX660 2GB/ Corsair Force 3/ Noctua NH-U9B-SE2

I've read several post on this forum, and others also, but mostly followed post from this forum, and tried numerous combinations. Several times I've been asked if my vcore is on Auto, but I don't have that setting on my board. My board has just 2 settings for that. Offset, and Manual. Also I have been given recommendations to lower the CPU PLL Voltage, but I don't have any control over that either only Auto or +0.10v
Heres a few screenshots I posted earlier some time ago about my Motherboards settings

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18464549

It's become a case of no matter what settings I try, I'm failing all of them, and I'm beginning to wonder if I was sold some dodgy parts, and I cant return them as I no longer have the receipts, and the guy at the shop wont take a look unless I pay him $90 to do so. As to your question do I know what I'm doing? Well I thought so, but probably not as much as I thought I did. 1.463v is a lot I know, but it's what I'm presented with when I enter a ratio of 44 upwards whether on Auto or Manual, and as of yet, I haven't been able to get this down to a stable level at these ratio's

8 Pack · 9 Jan 2013 at 16:59

92 C is too high for 24/7.

Use manual Vcore and try get the CPU stable with the lowest Volts. Then switch to offset and use an offset so it gives as close a voltage to manual as possible.

zepzeppelin · 10 Jan 2013 at 01:00

OK, Manual vcore 1.270v = 1.288v under Prime load (anything less than 1.270v Blue Screens pretty quickly) here's a image of where I got to before Prime stopped working

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3369/84652338.jpg

Please note: The temps shown on this image are not the temps during the 30 minute run, The first 15 mins during the 248k run were 63~71c and the second 15 mins during the 64k run were 71~86c Max, The temps then dropped to what's shown on the image up until the point where Prime stopped. Should I back off to perhaps x44 because I think adding more core is going to rocket those temps

stuie · 10 Jan 2013 at 08:51

thats much better. Still a little high for my liking but a lot better

8 Pack · 10 Jan 2013 at 09:38

^^^^^^ agreed!!!

8 Pack · 10 Jan 2013 at 09:38

^^^^^^ agreed!!!

zepzeppelin · 10 Jan 2013 at 10:19

Ok, Is this looking better? granted it's just 15min into Prime, however 8 Pack mentioned 30 mins of prime is enough: http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1461/73907936.jpg

8 Pack · 10 Jan 2013 at 10:45

Fine!!! Fine and fine!!!

zepzeppelin · 10 Jan 2013 at 22:04

BINGO! 30 Mins into Prime, and the best result yet, I'm now saving this to BIOS Profile, and that's it, I consider this to be Good: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4454/55427791.jpg

stuie · 11 Jan 2013 at 08:43

that looks good, 81c is boarding on what id feel safe with long term but remember few real programs will push you that height in normal use

Can i ask what cooling youve got for that?

8 Pack · 11 Jan 2013 at 10:20

Mate your CPU will be warm because all PCI X lanes populated and 32gb RAM = HEAT HEAT and HEAT!!!!

stuie · 11 Jan 2013 at 10:34

I admit i went overboard on this build but im happy with how it performs at 4.3ghz at neg offset@ 1.12

8 Pack · 11 Jan 2013 at 11:57

If you need all that RAM in the applications you run then its not overboard. All depends on your needs. With these systems too much of anything is counter productive to performance.

Dyewitness · 15 Jan 2013 at 21:11

im hoping to have 32gb soon lol

im doing 4.5ghz on 1.215v or auto llc + offset + 0.05

I would use that ram on my osx installation for music production. A lot of instruments running at once.