Is TvCatchup.com. legal?

From their FAQ:

3. Is TVCatchup legal?

Yes. TVCatchup is fully compliant with the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended, and the broadcasters have fully participated as part of the process of assessing the legality of TVCatchup.

The site is represented by leading copyright lawyer Laurence Gilmore of Hamlins LLP in conjunction with Expert Counsel Madeleine Heal and is counseled by the world eminent authority in copyright and intellectual property law, Robert Engleheart QC of Blackstone Chambers.
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The website has been confirmed as being lawful by prominent copyright experts Hamlins LLP of London and Robert Engleheart QC of Blackstone Chambers. Broadcasters have further participated in assessing the website prior to launch, and have been reported as having identified no legal cause to oppose the service.
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On Wikipedia. You do need a TV licence though, same with watching the BBC TV streams like this;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlive/bbc_one_london/
 
Not sure if it has any baring but...

iplayer can show something on TV delayed and you won't need a TV license because they have the distribution rights...

A 3rd party can't capture (live) the stream and reshow it delayed because they won't have the distribution rights... so not only are they on dodgy legal grounds so is anyone watching their streams.
 
debatable but I think there is a clause for how long delayed it is from live before its not counted as live any more.
 
Kenai said:
Not technically, I don't know how live is defined legally.
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True - as most live feeds have a delay at the production end for errors and bloopers etc (putting in beeps for swearing and such) so what we get is never really truly live, in the sense of the word.

Rich
 
titchard said:
True - as most live feeds have a delay at the production end for errors and bloopers etc (putting in beeps for swearing and such) so what we get is never really truly live, in the sense of the word.

Rich
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it's not live in that sense.

It's in the sense of the actual broadcast. so if on normal tv, sky, freeview its being broadcast.
Then any internet streams being broadcasted at the same time as those would need a license.

Now I can't find anything on tv license website about delays, so who knows if 10seconds is classed as. But usually sky/freeview/terrestrial are out of sink by a few seconds.
 
AcidHell2 said:
it's not live in that sense.

It's in the sense of the actual broadcast. so if on normal tv, sky, freeview its being broadcast.
Then any internet streams being broadcasted at the same time as those would need a license.

Now I can't find anything on tv license website about delays, so who knows if 10seconds is classed as. But usually sky/freeview/terrestrial are out of sink by a few seconds.
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True - I know that if the TV is on in two rooms and one is on sky, the other on freeview they echo eachother.

Rich
 
is that the right website name as it doesn't seem to have anything but a search engine and is full of trojans.

Was going to email tv license and see what they class as simultaneous broadcast. Reading some of there questions and replys. It might be that the program has to finish fully before it's classed as catchup. But that is only reading between the lines.

Do you mean tvcatchup.It looks like the site you have described.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
is that the right website name as it doesn't seem to have anything but a search engine and is full of trojans.

Was going to email tv license and see what they class as simultaneous broadcast. Reading some of there questions and replys. It might be that teh program has to finish fully before it's classed as catchup. But that is only reading between the lines.
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What, the link I gave you or http://www.tvcatchup.com/ ?

Both are working for me on my mac.
 
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