Is xbox 360 better than a PC?

Tunney said:
I've never seen it as an or/either situation. I've been into PC gaming for 10+ years and into console gaming for even longer.

I own a PC to play the kind of games that it's suited to - FPS, RTS, Football Manager, etc. It does the job with these kind of games excellently and a console would always be a very poor substitute.

And I own a console to play the kind of games that it's suited to - sportd games, racers, 3rd person action games and all those crazy gimmicky games. Again, these games are usually sub-standard on the PC (usually because they're console ports).

If I had to choose between the two platforms, I'd probably pick a PC. It's more verstile and the games are cheaper.
this is the best post here.

streetfighter 2 on a snes
super monkey ball on a GC
counter strike / civilization / management games on a PC

no one device would satisfy me

also the poster who claims PC games is a dying industry.. I disagree.
 
Nismo said:
Also, where did I say I like FPS's?

The point about being harder to control is purely subjective. Using a pad is no harder than when you first used a keyboard and mouse in a FPS - its all about getting used to what your using to play it.

You will actually find that in a game such as COD2 or Condemned, people find that the pad works extremely well, and almost adds to the atmosphere as in real life you wouldnt always be pin-point accurate like you would with a mouse.

Many different views on this.

Maybe there is an option to turn it off but usually in console FPS's there is a slight auto-aim to help acuracy. On PC FPS's this option is there but it never helps as much nor is used as much.

The realism factor of the games, always the argument that a game is a game. So never can be completely realistic (at this level) so that doesn't really come into it. Nor do soldiers have aim help.

Can never be decided, its all personal preference. Some people prefer PC FPS's (me) others prefer console FPS's.
 
I bought an Xbox 360 as it would cost me about £800 to get the same experience out of oblivion when it comes out (PC upgrade estimate). Im still using AGP and a socket 754 so id need a serious upgrade :|

Plus I didnt have a dvd player in my room so the xbox is a welcome addition
 
i only play FPS games so i will always say PC, keyboard and mouse = quick precision, pad = absolute crap to play an FPS with

whats used at CPL/WCG/ECG mainly? PCs, why do you goto lans? to sit around on a console..doubt it, PCs

i know at some events they have games like fifa etc but im not sure wether they use consoles or pc for that
 
gord said:
But i want to see your XK220.. got any pics? :p
Here it it, I park it on a special plinth outside my house
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fatiain said:
Here it it, I park it on a special plinth outside my house
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Thats the XJ220, wheres the XK? :D


nana said:
also the poster who claims PC games is a dying industry.. I disagree

Fine, but from everything I can see it points to the fact that more and more devs and publishers that were previously working on PC only titles, are now switching to consoles as well.
 
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Simaster14 said:
You mention you like FPS's, well to tell you the truth, they suck on console's. It is a lot harder to control your aim with a controller rather than a mouse/keyboard combo.


Although the controls have to be spot on, I think console FPS's are at least as good as PC ones. And with good controls can be easily played on console.

I've played...

Quake 2, Half life, Far Cry, Half Life 2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournaments, Halo, Halo 2, Call of Duty 2 etc.

And the best ones? Halo and Call of Duty 2 on xbox and 360 respectively.

But it could be just my personal preference since I took the decision a year or so ago that upgrading a PC purely for game is a mugs game and for that reason I'll always say consoles are better.

But...this is another one of those questions that just cannot be answered satisfactorily. Like the PSX vs Saturn, Amiga vs ST, Spectrum vs C64 etc.
 
I used to be an avid PC gamer, and I have the PC to prove it - 7800GTX in SLI, 2GB RAM, dual Xeons (thats for work, not gaming :p), 20" LCD, etc. I've dabbled in a few console games, Red Faction a while back was a high point (not the second one, the original :)), GT3, Halo 2, few other games. I got a free Xbox with a projector early last year, spent about £50 on games & accesories, played it a little then it just gathered dust. Then someone gave me a 3 month Xbox Live trial, so I got Conker Live & Reloaded, and replayed Halo 2. There was a LOT of potential there, enough to convince me of the merits of consoles. However, I was still planning on keeping my PC at least mid-range to carry on playing games on my PC, the Xbox would handle the rest.

Then along came the X360, I couldn't help it and bought one 3 weeks ago. The X360 can't be compared to any other console, and all the PC gamers who are banging on about the PC being superior etc. probably haven't actually played on one. High definition is a big thing MS are pushing - and with good reason, it brings their console up into high quality imagery that PC gamers have been enjoying since '98 or so. So we've got sharp visuals, next we've got a service for centrally distributing FREE demos without waiting in download queues, without searching for the demo, and without paying any money at all (Silver service is free). You've got a centrally-based multiplayer system thats rapidly maturing (it looks like future games will finally feature dedicated servers, an essential feature for real multiplayer games), with player ratings, proper working voice coms, and so forth. Even the controls in games are mostly preset based on your settings in the dashboard (you set the controls for 3 separate genres in the dash, and the game uses those settings).

So lets compare this to a PC (as neutral as possible).

You purchase a game, thats £40 (online) for a X360 game, and probably £25 (online) for the PC game. They arrive and you put them in to your machine.

The X360 game comes up in about 40 seconds, ready to play (including console start). You start up the PC (30 secs) the PC game comes up with an installer, you click OK to all the agreements, type in a keycode, wait 5 mins or so for it to install (assuming DVD and not multi-disc), and then if its starforce, you reboot (potentially another minute). However the load times on the PC game are potentially faster than the load times on the X360.

The X360 game has the controls and visual settings already set courtesy of the dash, so you select campaign, press A, and let it load. The PC game requires you to set the resolution, customise your controls, change the mouse sensitivity, possibly modify the audio settings (Miles Fast 2D, DX, DX Hardware, EAX2, EAX3, EAX4, A3D), and then you get to campaign, and fire away.

The PC game has a series of mods and custom content available to download from the net. Sure it may break the game (or even your PC) but there can be a lot of it (UT/HL), and its all free. The X360 game will have some extra content available, but unfortunately it won't neccesarily be free. You may end up spending £10 or so on extra content that probably isn't as good as whats available for the PC game.

The PC game has multiplayer, but no ranking system, and no matchmaking service. The X360 game picks up on your friends, and if they're playing online the server they're playing on, you'll join too (if there's space). You can elect to prefer servers with other's you've met online, without needing to add them to your friends. This list of friends & preferred people is persistant across ALL of your games. You can send messages (both text and voice) to them at any time, and they can read & listen to them within any game. The PC version has none of this unless your friends use a specific service like Gamespy, and even then if they're not logged in through it, it won't work. The X360 game keeps track of your scores in different levels, so you can compare your ranking against everyone else. The X360 keeps track of your achievements so you can see how you're doing in the game in general compared to your friends, and other people. If the game supports it, you're skill is assessed, and given a number - your 'TruSkill' ranking. When you join a multiplayer game, you're put in with people of a similiar skill to your own, so you don't end up with a bunch of n00bs, or a bunch of maniac killers who can get a headshot from 100m. If anyone cheats they're banned from the ENTIRE SERVICE indefinitely. They can no longer play ANY games online unless they get a new account.

The PC game itself is cheaper, but the PC is much more expensive. The PC game is more hassle, especially if the game doesn't like something. You might have to update your drivers... again, you might have to install a new DX, you might even need to buy a new component. With the X360, updates come through Live, the last update I think took about 2 minutes (from initial on), it autoinstalled, it autorebooted, and I was good to go.

Realistically, to keep up with medium quality in games you either need to update to a mid-range graphics card each year (£150-£200 now), or a high-end every 2 years (£300-£400 now). You also need to upgrade the CPU (£100-£200) every 3 years, which requires a new mobo (£100), and possibly new memory (£100-£200). You have a couple of problems each month, maybe something corrupted, maybe a setting got messed up, etc.

The X360 is much more than your standard games console, it has a lot more going for it, and most of that comes from Live. However, a PC is still a very useful thing to have around, but if you remove games from the equation, suddenly you don't need such a powerful PC. You definitely don't need to keep upgrading, which is a big chunk of change.

Cheating ruined a lot of games for me online with the PC, but with the Xbox you know that no1 is cheating (you may come across 1 person, but they wont be around for long). This is a big thing imo, and a major reason I play online with my X360, but not with my PC. Voice coms help too ;)

For me, a hardcore PC gamer, I don't plan on buying many PC games anymore. Many will say the pad sucks for FPS, I sure did (check my post in the 'should X360 have keyboard/mouse support). I no longer think that is the case, I can play an FPS really well with a pad. I completed Q2 on the X360 today, using the pad, without any aim support at all. With 3 USB ports, support for a keyboard and mouse is no problem, and I hope they'll support them in RTS games, but no other games, for it would ruin it for the pad users.

Anyway I think I've said enough :) Hardcore PC gamer > X360 convert.
 
malfunkshun said:
I said both, had i bought both XBOX consoles new it would have cost more than £500 without any games. my PC has cost me
200 graphics
100 processor
60 ram
40 motherboard
40 case
10 nic
10 keyboard
40 mouse
40 HD

£540 over the approximate period of time since the original XBOX launch, and that wasnt in a single transaction. £20 more than it would have cost me had i bought XBOX360 (it cost me 240 for the original when it was new, although this may be unusually high, probably because i live in the middle of nowhere)

did you not get a monitor with it then? ;)
 
Recently bought a 360 having used pcs for all my gaming needs over the last few years,haven't used a console since the early days of the PS one.

I have a high def TV so I've seen the 360 in all its glory and i'm very impressed,PGR3,condemned and Kameo have all been very enjoyable games to play,sound and visuals are excellent although I wouldn't say they eclipse a high end pcs capabilities in these areas,but for the price that a 360 can be bought,the quality of sound and vision it produces is amazing.

I don't imagine ever giving up on pc gaming because as has already been mentioned certain game genres lend themselves more towards pcs,I also find pc gaming so far to be a more intimate and immersive experience,probably due to my being only a couple of feet from the screen and wearing a set of headphones.

In short,both systems have unique qualities and capabilities,so as a gaming platform I would find it impossible to judge one above the other.
 
Boogle said:
loads of stuff...

Great post and sums up exactly my feelings. Converted form PC gaming after about 10 years of upgrades in december and havent looked back since. I will still keep my PC for web/work/vieo etc etc, but I wont be updating if to play games anymore. It has a 6800GT so i'll continue playing CS:S and BF2 etc but to be honest the 360 wipes the floor with it on COD2 and I couldn't imagine my pc coping with PGR3 or Kameo very well at all.
 
Great post boogle, couldnt agree more. I'm done pc gaming except for RTS. Ive brought a lot of pc games recently and most have left a bad taste, rolling back drivers. Crackly sound, fixes to get round that. Searching forums for fixes to problem A. My last upgrade cost me £600 which I can buy 2 next gen consoles for.

Xbox live has opened my eyes to how easy online gaming should be. Sadly the only stable online game ive ever played constantly without getting **** *** is AOE2 on msn zone.

I stopped playing online at all because it caused more grief than fun. Plus I didnt see the reason to spend £600 for a handfull of games that are decent.

The shelves are a tenth of the size in game shops than they were for the pc in 2000. I read in my magazines that many big companies aren't interested in making pc games anymore. Also you have the grief that goes with PC copy protection, such as steam which stopped me playing half life. It sits on the shelf unplayed.

Its dead, hopefully it can be ressurected but I doubt it.
 
Is a PC better than a 360 ?

I play more games on the 360 than on a PC. Then again I play a different kind of game on the 360. The 360 is (for me) about grabbing 30 minutes of fun here and there in a seamless easy environment with zero hassles finding an online game or setting up servers etc.
The 360 is instant fun, it is accessible in a different way to PC games. I think the fact that it is in the living room makes it a bit different too.

Is it better? Well that all depends upon what you want from your gaming experiences.
It is different for sure, how open to change are you?
 
Boogle said:

I couldnt agree more. Its far far better gaming on the TV sitting on a comfy sofa. And also games companies are less and less interested in developing for the PC. Due to the fact its more difficult to develop for, and to test. Then you have the fact that PC games are more likely to be copied I can see there point of view.
 
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