ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Terminal_Boy · 4 Jan 2016 at 16:06

Skunkworks said:
The Corbyn voters are too busy hugging them.

Sounds like an ideal drone strike target. 2 birds with one stone...

Cosimo · 4 Jan 2016 at 16:25

Rroff said:
EDIT for numbers that are more directly comparable:

Rock/Metal in a concert hall typical 85-100, peak 150db.
Gunshot in an enclosed space typical 140-170, peak 190+db.

To add in there +20db is approximately perceived as 4x louder sound (not sure how that works with microphones) and the difference in distances involved in the video would have resulted in the gunshots being attenuated by approx 16-18db though that doesn't take into account the properties of the room in terms of absorbing or reflecting the sound.

Nice, over an hour later Google has turned the edited reply into an expert opinion from a sound engineer in order to add more meat to a preposterous conspiracy theory.

So are we to believe that you're another one who thinks this terrorist attack in the Bataclan has been staged or are you just trying to be a wise guy?

Harlequin · 4 Jan 2016 at 16:49

Cosimo said:
How do you feel about Iran as they support terrorism in the Middle East or are you just being selective?

define terrorism? Think someone in Russia got it right:

Rroff · 4 Jan 2016 at 16:49

Cosimo said:
Nice, over an hour later Google has turned the edited reply into an expert opinion from a sound engineer in order to add more meat to a preposterous conspiracy theory.

So are we to believe that you're another one who thinks this terrorist attack in the Bataclan has been staged or are you just trying to be a wise guy?

I think you are mis-reading my post - though the last bit might be a little obscure as I hastily edited it before leaving for work.

Dis86 · 4 Jan 2016 at 17:28

Cosimo said:
Nice, over an hour later Google has turned the edited reply into an expert opinion from a sound engineer in order to add more meat to a preposterous conspiracy theory.

So are we to believe that you're another one who thinks this terrorist attack in the Bataclan has been staged or are you just trying to be a wise guy?

Think you've misread that...he's clearly stating the guns are and should be louder than the music.

manoz · 4 Jan 2016 at 17:46

Amnesia said:
Surely if the attacks didnt happen, people would come forward and say ..hang on i was there at the time and nothing of the sort happened.

The government cant just claim an attack in your local town center and all the residents of the town play along with it.

Oh yes they can, this is why they do drills, so if something goes wrong they can say it was the drill. Remember 7/7? They were doing drills in the exact same places at the exact same times. They use crisis actors and the media and police are given a script, everyone sees it on TV but the ground is cordoned off so no one can get near. People are paid a great deal so why come forward? The media isn't interested in the truth. The people of Sandy Hook got millions for pulling of their hoax from the gov and setting up fund raising. Noah Pozner "died" at Sandy Hook and then he "died" in Pakistan a year later. They do these staged events to add more restrictions in the laws. Does this woman seem like she was shot in the ass?

With regards to theatre shooting, does it sound like 3 men firing AKs? The gap between shots is way too long

MookJong said:
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Oh I thought it was crazy muslims all along up until recently but stories and lack of evidence don't make sense anymore.

Mynight · 4 Jan 2016 at 17:51

Right stop with the ********. I know someone who lost their dad in 7/7 so don't post this crap please without solid proof please.

It must be horrific to be involved in such an atrocity to then read plebs claiming it's all a hoax.

Dis86 · 4 Jan 2016 at 17:51

Guys, does anyone know how one can trace someone's IP so that we can contact samaritans and get them the help they need?

Jokester · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:00

Some people just aren't capable of ~~critical~~ thought.

manoz · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:01

Mynight said:
Right stop with the ********. I know someone who lost their dad in 7/7 so don't post this crap please without solid proof please.

It must be horrific to be involved in such an atrocity to then read plebs claiming it's all a hoax.

Not a hoax, false flag

You've got to understand that the intelligence services and governments are willing and capable of using false flag terrorism. How else would they justify their wars?

Mynight · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:03

One day that device that allows you to punch someone over the Internet will come. I'll be waiting

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Dis86 · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:03

manoz said:
Not a hoax, false flag

You said yourself it was a hoax and then went on to spout crap about how everyone was an actor!

Amnesia · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:04

manoz said:
Oh yes they can, this is why they do drills, so if something goes wrong they can say it was the drill. Remember 7/7? They were doing drills in the exact same places at the exact same times. They use crisis actors and the media and police are given a script, everyone sees it on TV but the ground is cordoned off so no one can get near. People are paid a great deal so why come forward? The media isn't interested in the truth. The people of Sandy Hook got millions for pulling of their hoax from the gov and setting up fund raising. Noah Pozner "died" at Sandy Hook and then he "died" in Pakistan a year later. They do these staged events to add more restrictions in the laws. Does this woman seem like she was shot in the ass?

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Well i cant tell since she doesnt pull her pants down and show her ass in the interview.

Care to share how you can tell she didn't get shot.

twist3d0n3 · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:06

manoz said:
Not a hoax, false flag

You've got to understand that the intelligence services are willing and capable of using false flag terrorism. How else would they justify their wars?

manoz · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:15

Amnesia said:
Well i cant tell since she doesnt pull her pants down and show her ass in the interview.

Care to share how you can tell she didn't get shot.

She said the bullet came into her thigh and went out the other side. With an ak47 that's a lot of damage. She should still be in hospital, not laughing and stuff and saying the event felt "strangely logical" wtf does that mean? On the banner of the website 60 minutes, she's standing for a photo like nothing touched her. There have been other crisis actors who have actually been traced back to their respective acting schools and people find their other tv/movie work. During Charlie Hebdo, CNN reported the officer on the ground being shot and killed by the jihadist but if you look at the uncensored version the bullet doesn't even touch him, just a puff of dust next to his head. No brain matter, no blood. CNN also clearly use green screen to pretend they are at events

You may call me a kook all you want but until I see bullet ridden bloody bodies, I ain't buying. Ain't buying all the fake vigils and flower shows.

Amp34 · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:22

robgmun said:
It just shows the desperation and mental gymnastics that moderate Muslims are doing because they're so determined to avoid the terrible truth about their own religion and the type of people that follows it.

What are you on about? :confused:

Dave · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:26

May just be me, but seeing the screengrabs from the latest IS video doing the round I think that Noorul from the Apprentice (a few years ago!) has really lost his way

Tefal · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:28

Amp34 said:
What are you on about?

Manoz is a member of the religion of peace iirc.

Amp34 · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:29

manoz said:
She said the bullet came into her thigh and went out the other side. With an ak47 that's a lot of damage. She should still be in hospital, not laughing and stuff and saying the event felt "strangely logical" wtf does that mean? On the banner of the website 60 minutes, she's standing for a photo like nothing touched her. There have been other crisis actors who have actually been traced back to their respective acting schools and people find their other tv/movie work. During Charlie Hebdo, CNN reported the officer on the ground being shot and killed by the jihadist but if you look at the uncensored version the bullet doesn't even touch him, just a puff of dust next to his head. No brain matter, no blood. CNN also clearly use green screen to pretend they are at events

You may call me a kook all you want but until I see bullet ridden bloody bodies, I ain't buying. Ain't buying all the fake vigils and flower shows.

Interestingly enough I once read something about the Black Hawk Down "mission". There were complaints afterwards that the ammunition they were using (high velocity rifle rounds) were going straight through the enemy and not putting them down as they weren't actually causing enough damage...

Perhaps this is what happened? In all the films I've seen people get shot and carry on fighting straight afterwards so it makes sense...

Mynight · 4 Jan 2016 at 18:30

manoz said:
She said the bullet came into her thigh and went out the other side. With an ak47 that's a lot of damage. She should still be in hospital, not laughing and stuff and saying the event felt "strangely logical" wtf does that mean? On the banner of the website 60 minutes, she's standing for a photo like nothing touched her. There have been other crisis actors who have actually been traced back to their respective acting schools and people find their other tv/movie work. During Charlie Hebdo, CNN reported the officer on the ground being shot and killed by the jihadist but if you look at the uncensored version the bullet doesn't even touch him, just a puff of dust next to his head. No brain matter, no blood. CNN also clearly use green screen to pretend they are at events

You may call me a kook all you want but until I see bullet ridden bloody bodies, I ain't buying. Ain't buying all the fake vigils and flower shows.

Yet you believe in God? Have you seen him or her or heshe(sorry forgot)?

I'm no firearms expert but if it only hit tissue I see no reason why she should be in worse shape.

And many news stations use green screens as it saves them from having reporters everywhere.