ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Yeah its being reported that she got blown up by another person.

Read somewhere she was shouting "help me" so I wonder if she was actually involved.

I imagine it such a closed space it would be hard to identify what blew up what.
 
Mynight said:
Yeah its being reported that she got blown up by another person.

Read somewhere she was shouting "help me" so I wonder if she was actually involved.

I imagine it such a closed space it would be hard to identify what blew up what.
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last words were reported as "hes not my boyfriend" iirc. and Allah ackbar when it was on the telly
 
SciNeT said:
But by using the name daesh, ******** are trying to make it seem as if Islam isn't the reason they're doing what they do. Isis call themselves Islamic State and base their entire lives around Islam. They run a state under sharia, which is an Islamic law. They use the Quran and an army of Muslims to do so. It couldn't be any more Islamic if they tried.
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Actually, it could be. All they'd need to do is drop the rhetoric around the West and it's interference in Muslim countries and actually follow the Quran fully, going beyond the few verses they're actually aware of.
 
Raz said:
Actually, it could be. All they'd need to do is drop the rhetoric around the West and it's interference in Muslim countries and actually follow the Quran fully, going beyond the few verses they're actually aware of.
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so basically do what no Muslim on earth does at all.
 

A video from one of the attacks.
Don't worry there are no deaths.
Actually scared of being labeled here but this video not seem at all odd? That's supposedly an AK - no windows shatter no bullets holes no damage at all in fact to any part of the building. What's with the confetti??

Someone who actually knows anything about firearms please comment.

Please note Paris attacks happened and people died and this post is not at all meant to be disrespectful. The video just doesn't make any sense which I why I posted it to gather comments. I am in no way a conspiracy theorists!! I am open to any criticism of what I've said about this specific video.
Please watch all of it before commenting
 
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The confetti is most likely dust from the initial explosion?

The door that gets opened right at the beginning has broken glass. That camera probably isnt high enough resolution to see bullet holes.

Cant watch anymore :(.
 
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Buddy said:
That's supposedly an AK - no windows shatter no bullets holes no damage at all in fact to any part of the building. What's with the confetti??
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i believe that would be the plaster etc from the bullet holes here are happening on the wall behind the camera where the bullets are hitting.

the gun man is firing towards the camera so holes will mostly be behind.

there were all the tv news ghouls out happily pointing out eh bullet holes in the days after.
 
Interesting interview from a former al-Qaeda mufti on ISIL

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...-isil-baghdadi-caliphate-151121133941210.html

"A former al-Qaeda ideologue who served on the group's Shura Council, Mauritani left al-Qaeda in August 2001 after disagreeing with bin Laden's decision to target civilians.

After the September 11 attacks, he fled to Iran where he spent 10 years in prison before being extradited to Mauritania.

Speaking from the Mauritanian capital Nouakchott, he accuses ISIL's recruitment methods, citing political and not religious grievances for the group's rise."
 
Tefal said:
i believe that would be the plaster etc from the bullet holes here are happening on the wall behind the camera where the bullets are hitting.

the gun man is firing towards the camera so holes will mostly be behind.

there were all the tv news ghouls out happily pointing out eh bullet holes in the days after.
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Fair observations. Go to 3.35 different angle - nothing gets touched? Back wall filled with glasses a mirror etc. Also some plaster from wall from front? - though I suppose the bullet could have gone through from behind but then you see nothing from previous angle? AK bullets are how big?

I will happily shut up about this but still not quite adding up? Sunday morning idiocy?
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Having actually shot an AK-47 I would say that the video is consistent with the sort of damaged one would do. (put your tin-foil hat away :p )
Horrifically powerful and surprisingly accurate weapons ak47's :(
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OK fair enough! As I said just wanted explanation. No tinfoil hats here. I have absolutely no firearms experience and Hollywood would have you believe the entire place wrecked. I'll shut up
 
Buddy said:
OK fair enough! As I said just wanted explanation. No tinfoil hats here. I have absolutely no firearms experience and Hollywood would have you believe the entire place wrecked. I'll shut up
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Yeah bullets don't explode on impact like in Hollywood films, the size and speed of rounds used in AK's is so huge that with the vast majority of materials the bullet simply blasts through and continues it's destructive journey.

I was shooting inch thick steel and the AK was effortlessly punching clean holes through it, only the hardened steel targets managed to stop them!
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Yeah bullets don't explode on impact like in Hollywood films, the size and speed of rounds used in AK's is so huge that with the vast majority of materials the bullet simply blasts through and continues it's destructive journey.

I was shooting inch thick steel and the AK was effortlessly punching clean holes through it, only the hardened steel targets managed to stop them!
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Thanks for the explanation. YouTube currently filled with these videos hitting top 10 with self stylised arms experts shouting conspiracy. Makes sense now and feel a bit embarrassed asking in the first place but I'm a bit more educated now :p
 
Buddy said:
Thanks for the explanation. YouTube currently filled with these videos hitting top 10 with self stylised arms experts shouting conspiracy. Makes sense now and feel a bit embarrassed asking in the first place but I'm a bit more educated now :p
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this is one of the big problems with these news events these days

people see things happen that they have no experience of and when it doesn't fit with what they have seen in films they cry "conspiracy"

never anything wrong with admitting you don't know everything
 
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