ISP for 16 people sharing

BenJ · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:13

Hi, ok I want to find a good ISP for my uni house, which has 16 people sharing the net, so it needs to be Quick,Unlimited and reliable. Any ideas?

Van Hellseek · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:14

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=6

AJUK · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:14

NTL/Telewest and get a wireless router.

calnen · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:15

And dont let anyone use P2P!

iBot · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:15

janet seems pretty quick for us

paradigm · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:15

Pipex 8mb, no limits and reletively cheap

Spacky · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:17

Might want to look into getting one of those bandwidth splitting routers...I think they exist :confused:

Visage · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:19

Spacky said:
Might want to look into getting one of those bandwidth splitting routers...I think they exist

Unless they're all expecting to be running bandwidth heavy apps then there's not much point.

Why restrict them to 512kbps each when the chances are that the other 15/16ths of the bandwidth is lying idle?

red11 · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:20

paradigm said:
Pipex 8mb, no limits and reletively cheap

Except port throttling...

Fishman · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:21

Linoge said:
Except port throttling...

Actually its packet inspection. 20kps on p2p apps, doesnt matter what port it runs on

robmiller · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:22

Fishman said:
Actually its packet inspection. 20kps on p2p apps, doesnt matter what port it runs on

...but you can just encrypt the traffic and it's fine

calnen · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:24

iBot said:
janet seems pretty quick for us

Not really relevant? He's moving into a house (I think), janet is for halls.

Fishman · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:25

robmiller said:
...but you can just encrypt the traffic and it's fine

yup on apps that support encrypted traffic. not all do

woodsy2k · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:25

NTL / BlueYonder is my recommendation as well.

Get a good router as well, a Draytek one will do the job nicely, and cost next to nothing when shared between so many. Get a poor router and it will suffer with that many people on it. Oh and as already said, NO P2P!

BenJ · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:26

what are you on about? how i can limit the speed each person recieves?

Psyk · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:26

10Mbit NTL/Telewest is probably the best option. Although between 16 people it could slow down if they are all moderately heavy users. I just got the 4Mbit package and I'm hoping that will be ok between 5 (probably will be if I limit my bittorrent usage).

Fishman · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:27

BenJ said:
what are you on about? how i can limit the speed each person recieves?

There are various ways using programs.
However what you could do is set up a download machine and use that for everyones downloading so you dont have 16 sets of people trying to all use 80% of the upload bandwidth

red11 · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:30

Fishman said:
Actually its packet inspection. 20kps on p2p apps, doesnt matter what port it runs on

I had Pipex for 4 years up until March, they throttled speeds down to 20kbps on all the p2p ports. I changed the ports I used for Bittorrent and the speeds increased, so they are actually throttling specific ports. I'm now with Nildram who as of yet, do not 'traffic shape' or 'port throttle'.

Psyk · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:32

Oh I suppose I could use this thread to ask about bittorrent. What is it that takes up all the bandwidth? Even if I've got downloads going about 60k (on a 4Mb download/384Kb upload connection) the web still slows right down. Is it to do with the amount I'm uploading rather than downloading?

red11 · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:38

It's the upload, if you use all of it, your overall speed grinds to a halt. Use a program like Netlimiter to set specific limits to certain programs.