It appears Obama has the same speech problems Bush does.

Obama is a complete twit, his campaign goals have changed constantly thoughout, he keeps going on about change but most of his plans are complete imposibilities or things that will be achieved, no matter who is in charge, over the next 30 years, like long term goals to replace power with renewable sources. All of the direct changes to be done during his term in office, theres essentially no real plan at all.

On Iraq, he's gone from insisting, for months on end, that he'd pull out instantly if he was put in charge, to realising that was impossible and has slowly changed his mind and now says they'll "try" leaving, which is what McCann's been saying from the start, but that it will take a long time and leaving while the situation is unstable would be a terrible idea. This is something Obama is only just realising, helping Afghanistan against the Russians was the right thing to do, giving up to early and leaving the country in chaos is what led to them hating the USA.

Basically, every one of the lovely fantastic things Obama promised over the last year has changed massively. McCann hasn't change his idea's much, as he had a much more realistic plan without all the lovey dovey hippy crap Obama comes out with, "i'll fix everything, world peace, renewable power, new power source, job for everyone, etc etc ". He just said what everyone wanted to hear and has slowly realised everything he said was idiotic and has backed out of every promise he made.

Meanwhile he's making enemies all over congress telling them how bad they are and insisting he's going to shake things up. A moderate Rupblican with the support of Congress and Senate might get a lot of good small social reform type things pushed through. A loud mouth Democrate with lots of pointless promises and no support at all will get nothing, absolutely nothing done during his term.

As for God, you can't ignore the fact the country still largely believes in god, most world leaders run countries that still heavily believe in god and would not get into power if they just told everyone their wasn't a god, at the end of the day the President, or leader of any nation has to act and be who that nation will vote for, even if they don't believe in what they say.

Obama would be hopeless, for so many reasons, McCann isn't scared of war, but isn't a Warmonger at all, people who think that are flat out idiots. Almost the entire planet whats Iran to be stopped from having nukes, Obama would certainly bomb Iran manufacturing plants if it came to it, just as McCann, Bush, Brown, Blair or most other world leaders would do.
 
Obama lost my faith on his very -first- speech. The one where he gave Israel a blowjob that would make Jenna Jameson turn green. He explicitly said Jerusalem would be undivided and in complete Israeli control, stoking the flames of mid-east turmoil and showing a complete disregard for the Palestinian crisis.

Just like every other politician. Obama hasn't disproven my gut feelings ever since. He is a sham, a shiny, polished exceptional sham. I'm glad everyone's opening their eyes just before the election now - instead of after.
 
Obama is a 'Yes man' to the rest of the world. We might as well lube up well if he gets into office because we will be taking it up the rear for the next four years.

But your probably right, the rest of the world will love us!

you already are taking it up the rear and nobody fired a shot. over a third of your national debt is held by the chinese, then your fighting a war on two fronts with an economy thats running on an unsustainable model of credit ,rebates, and over spending along with massive incompetance in its organisational structure that has just urinated money away to US contractors who have leached the military cash cow for all they can get.

not to mention the fact the the entire war is unwinnable anyway. Our armies are not designed to be used as long term peace keepers and are not trained in guerilla warfare, its exactly why the British lost in Afghanistan a hundred years back, exactly why America lost in Vietnam and exactly why we cant win here. The best we can do is long term attrition.

As for america itself its got two options.

1) stay as you are:
result:
the Chinese own your arses by 2030 in terms of economic output and militarily by 2080

2) Change
result:
Take the right steps, reduce your dependencies (energy, military) cut back on your expenditure, mend your bridges with your old alliances, invest in new markets (clean technologies (the Chinese lead here currently) stabilise your economy and reposition yourself better for the future, as one way or another, at present rates, the Chinese are going to overtake the USA economically (although not per capita for some time and they do have problems internally which may delay this)
 
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Why does it tend to be republican (and therefore Christian) states that are for the death penalty?
 
Obama is the guy to win. He won't die if you creep up behind him and say "AREA 51!!! OOGABOOGA" either.
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The 57 states thing doesn't concern me much, it's hardly surprising that someone says the wrong number etc when they're getting hardly any sleep and working in a far more stressful environment then most of us could even imagine. Also I'm quite sure that no one can seriously believe that Obama actually thought there were 57 states, hence it can only be a slip of the tongue that caused the error.

With regards to democrats or republicans being better for the economy I was under the impression that when you look at the figures it was always the republicans who massively increased the deficit... I'll have to check on that out of interest.

As for america itself its got two options.

1) stay as you are:
result:
the Chinese own your arses by 2030 in terms of economic output and militarily by 2080

2) Change

Where did you get those dates from? :p The Chinese probably do already have the power to completely destroy the US economy should they choose to, however it will never be in their interests to do so I doubt they will. 2080 for military superiority? Doesn't China already have the worlds largest military? Not to mention that if it comes to a war between super powers no one will win.
 
Where did you get those dates from? :p The Chinese probably do already have the power to completely destroy the US economy should they choose to, however it will never be in their interests to do so I doubt they will. 2080 for military superiority? Doesn't China already have the worlds largest military? Not to mention that if it comes to a war between super powers no one will win.

Iran has the largest military in the world although that's only because it's practically 'if you're a man you're military'.
 
Iran has the largest military in the world although that's only because it's practically 'if you're a man you're military'.

I don't think that's is true. China has far more manpower in their military, not to mention training, nuclear weapons, ICBMs, massive airforce etc.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the 57 states thing was a joke about how much travelling he's done? Listen to the way he says it, he's trying to time it for comic effect and there's even a chuckle from the audience. I could be way off but that seems more plausible then him suddenly making up 57 states. As for the rest of it, that's less easy to explain away.
 
as someone said, he 99% likely said 57 instead of 47. Mistakes already due to not enough sleep isn't a great sign though. How many sleepless nights do you think the president has during his term, don't really want a guy incapable of coping with stress and lack of sleep.


Meh, Obama is useless, he just constantly says stupid things. But with regards to Israel, frankly the idea of palastine getting their land back is ridiculous now. History really does mean nothing, people are fighting for a pointless idea. The sooner the rest of the world just all stands up and say a flat "no" to the idea the better. At the moment everyones just dragging on a fight that they think might be winnable because we simply haven't put an end to it. Right now, all the people fighting never ever lived their in the first place, they are fighting something that started before they were born and have no reason to care about. I don't think thats why he suggested it, he just wants Wall Street money on his side(yes thats a remark about the jews controlling all the money :p ).


Its his flip flopping around that makes him utterly useless. THe wrong stance, and sticking to it often turns out better than someone who constantly changes his mind and really has no idea's of his own. IE, if McCann , who is decisive, just gets the support (which he would by the way) from world powers to make a swift decisive blow to Iran's nuclear plans, even if it peeves them off, its better than Obama spending 2 years deciding to do it and constantly changing his mind. he's a weak willed idiot.

Lets also not forget, the moron of a VP he went with is heavy , very heavy into RIAA supporting and trying to make ridiculous laws based around piracy and downloading, all which got shot down for being stupid. Both would make an awful team with no experience and most importantly, no support, even if they found the next power source, clean renewable and cheap, they simply don't have any support to push moving to it over oil. If he gets in, and he might, he will do nothing at all and likely they'd be much weaker than they are now.


China, are ridiculously rich at the moment, they've bought up a ludicrous amount of the US and UK's debt, but most likely will find much of the value lost in the future, and by spending so much in lending money, which simply can't be paid back, they could well be over extending themselves which will most likely bite them in the bum at some point. Economies have a way of equalling themselves out over the long term.
 
Where did you get those dates from? :p The Chinese probably do already have the power to completely destroy the US economy should they choose to, however it will never be in their interests to do so I doubt they will. 2080 for military superiority? Doesn't China already have the worlds largest military? Not to mention that if it comes to a war between super powers no one will win.

New Economist

the future may be much like the past, but we cannot be certain it will, and there are many instances of such predictions being wrong. Worse - as one of the commentators on Mark's blog post pointed out - the piece ignores the fact that on a purchasing parity power basis the GDP gaps are already much smaller than Berry suggests. According to the list of countries by GDP (PPP) on Wikipedia, China accounted for either 58% (IMF estimate) or 61% (World Bank estimate) of US GDP in 2004.

Using these World Bank estimates and Berry's real growth numbers of 3.5% and 9%, it would take China just ten years for its GDP to exceed the United States. Using a lower real growth rate for China of just 6% (two-thirds of the current annual pace) it would take China 21 years to become the world's largest economy.
as you can see, they are arguing that in terms of purchasing power china is already snapping at the US`s heels. and if you track growth rates of 3.5% and 9% for the US and China respectively, the chinese overtake them in 2029. However... the US is no longer growing at an average 3.5%.


Chinese Military:
www.globalsecurity.org
 
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Obama is the lesser of the 2 evils! No way in hel Mcain should get in!
Hil-dog should have got in - with Slick Willy behind her times would be on the up straight away!!!
 
lets face it, theyre both american therefore theyre both retarded and will both make terrible presidents. i think bush is an ace president, look at the amount of stand up comedy jokes he's created, an absolute legend. why do we even care about america anymore, theyre nothing compared to china, and they have terrible sports (except hockey but thts mainly canadian). /bow at china plex.
 
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