IT Industry - Systems/Server/Network/Technical

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Is it just me, or are salaries for the jobs above decreasing over time? It doesn't seem to make a difference that you have to know an awful lot to support/administer/configure/build networks and support it's users.

I think the reasons behind this salary decrease are:

1. Flooded IT market, too many people, too little 'systems' type jobs.

2. Systems these days are much more stable - you used to have IT Depts with 20 users supporting unstable delicate hardware/software and network infrastructure. Now, you're lucky if you have 2 users supporting 300 users.

3. Because systems are more stable, imo people perceive IT Support to be a doss job, when in fact you have to know something when things go wrong, systems don't fix themselves (OK, so some issues 'appear' to, but most major issues do not).

4. People seem to have no concept with regards to setting up networks/supporting networks, and dealing with software related issues, and the knowledge surrounding the maintenance of software. They think it's very easy and therefore not worth much in a salary.

5. Why does CISCO stuff pay big money? It really isn't that difficult. You see jobs which cover ALL the areas which are required in an IT Support dept and yet they pay less than just doing one part (CISCO).
 
well as you say people are flooding the market these days with all the skills and to my knowledge few people do cisco .... (not even done at my college anymore) it is abit sad and depressing that were losing money but its also a way to psh for knowing more stuff and climbing the ladder no ....aswell as this there is \a lot more jobs available these days .... so no realy complaints there
 
But, from 3rd Line Support /Senior Systems Support/Tech Analyst/Sys Admin, etc, the only jump up is IT Manager, and in most cases, that doesn't pay huge amounts any more.
 
I agree with 1 & 2, they certain apply to my company.

Cisco is such a broad subject that you need to pay proper money to find someone who knows their stuff. You may find that somone doing IT Support has played with a few Catalyst Switches or Routers, but you need to pay well to find someone who knows Cisco stuff in depth.
 
Triad2000 said:
But, from 3rd Line Support /Senior Systems Support/Tech Analyst/Sys Admin, etc, the only jump up is IT Manager, and in most cases, that doesn't pay huge amounts any more.
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It will all depend on the size of the organisation. How much to you class as a 'huge amount'?

Certainly where I work (Reuters) there is so much potential to progress your career, and brilliant pay along the way. This said however, I can see that in smaller organisations you could reach a bit of a dead end before too long.
 
Yeah, I haven't worked for 'big' organisations...

The other thing which doesn't help is transportation costs, a season ticket to London from where I live comes to 3k or more a year. To make it worth while doing, I'd have to take a job for 38k minimum, and there aren't many jobs in London for 3/4th line, Systems Admin, Senior Admin, Tech Support, etc which pay that.
 
There were several offering that sort of figure when I last looked around for a new job (6 months or so ago), infact most of them were > £42k. Not that £42k is a fantastic wage for London though.
 
Triad2000 said:
I'd have to take a job for 38k minimum, and there aren't many jobs in London for 3/4th line, Systems Admin, Senior Admin, Tech Support, etc which pay that.
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Your not looking hard enough then
 
Triad2000 said:
Yeah, I haven't worked for 'big' organisations...

The other thing which doesn't help is transportation costs, a season ticket to London from where I live comes to 3k or more a year. To make it worth while doing, I'd have to take a job for 38k minimum, and there aren't many jobs in London for 3/4th line, Systems Admin, Senior Admin, Tech Support, etc which pay that.
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Like others have said, there are plenty of places offering that sort of cash. Certainly at bigger organisations there are jobs offereing considerably more than that for people with the right skills.
 
Probably not. Everything i've seen is circa 35K which I'm better off making where I live than effectively making the same in London... which would be a pay cut.
 
Triad2000 said:
Probably not. Everything i've seen is circa 35K which I'm better off making where I live than effectively making the same in London... which would be a pay cut.
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What sort of skills do you have? Like I said, for people with the right skills, there are plenty of jobs paying the amount your after. :)
 
Unfortunatelly for me, the area that im looking at getting into, i'd be lucky to get one that pays 20k.
I was planning on becoming a IT Technician, i do it part time at a school, and get payed quite well there, but unless i branch out and get qualified in a specific area, like programming, ive got little chance of earning a good wage. :(
 
wyrdo said:
In hindsight I wish I'd become a plumber or electrician :(
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A couple of the Software/Hardware Engineers where I work did just that...they realised that engineering was not going anywhere, at least in this country, and retrained. One that I spoke to, said he now does a lot more hours but is a lot happier as he doesn't stress about losing his job any more....something that is always hanging over you in this industry now.
 
Yeah im a bit peeved with the IT Industry, the amount of time/study you need to put in to keep your skills up to date and there isnt much financial reward after all that effort.
 
Consulting is the way to go IMO. There is a lot more money in it, lots of prospects for promotion, and often good benifits too! I guess it depends who you work for though.
 
When I went to Uni I thought it was a great career move and while some of my mates trained in Plumbing, Electrical etc, I thought it was a bad idea.

Now, these mates of mine earn over £1000 a week and have their newly built house's paid so no mortage needed. There will always be trade work meaning you'll get a job in the trade your qualified at.

They are the one's laughing now. And if they decided tomorrow to go abroad, they would walk straight into a job there also.
 
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