It's no wonder the wall fell down......

Dave L · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:10

Typical DailyFail type reporting this.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-21212792

There is no way a gable wall could or should collapse like that due to snowfall & accumulation on the roof.

Looking at Google Streetview we now see the reason for the catastrophic failure!

Could have killed someone unfortunate enough to be standing below it, cowboy builders or what???

*Rich* · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:13

Poor construction, i do wonder how roofs that just stick out like that are properly supported. Given that there are no posts holding the outer edge up.

dfarrall · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:15

Lol, anyone who did a GCSE physics should realise that wont last long.

Ma'am · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:21

I'm local (ish) to that and word has it that the house and extention was built by a housing association. :eek:

VoG · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:26

In all seriousness, surely the insurance won't pay out to repair that, as it's clearly bloody unsafe to slap a honking great big cantilever car port/roof on the side of a house, that wasn't designed & built to withstand such loads in the first place?.

PhillyDee · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:26

*Rich* said:
Poor construction, i do wonder how roofs that just stick out like that are properly supported. Given that there are no posts holding the outer edge up.

They are supported by the wall itself, its a perfectly acceptable way of building something. However, you do need to do your calculations right, and build in a large factor or safety for exactly that reason!

Personally, I would have build it with supports though.

Traffic_Warden · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:30

Dumb idiots, do builders/owners not notice this is going to be a huge disaster?

Complete idiots i say!

Sone · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:32

Builders will just follow the drawings, damn civil engineers and no calcs

Dave L · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:33

Sone said:
Builders will just follow the drawings, damn civil engineers and no calcs

I'd have to question the builder who put that up.....it was destined to fail, anyone could see that!

I take it that a builder did it?? :confused:

PS and it would have nothing to do with a Civil Engineer!

panyan · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:35

*Rich* said:
Poor construction, i do wonder how roofs that just stick out like that are properly supported. Given that there are no posts holding the outer edge up.

cantilevers get their strength from a rigid bar in them and good support at the root wall

The actual idea isnt flawed, but would need a nice thick brick wall and some strong I-beams in it for it to work. Obviously this had neither

Skillmister · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:36

LOL!

You wouldn't think snow would do this would you?

And now it all makes sense.

Sone · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:36

Dave L said:
I'd have to question the builder who put that up.....it was destined to fail, anyone could see that!

I take it that a builder did it??

In my albeit limited experience of the construction trade, 90% of tradesmen will just blindly follow the drawings no matter how wrong they are. Some are numptys, some have previously been told off for thinking they know more than the engineers so just follow it.

Dave L · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:38

Well whoever fitted this up should stay to putting up those plastic porches you see on newbuilds and nothing else!!!!

Traffic_Warden · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:39

Sone said:
Builders will just follow the drawings, damn civil engineers and no calcs

Yeah but even as a tradesmen they should know not everything on the drawing is always correct. Many a time I've had to point out things and modify them to suit when wiring a house. (Although wiring won't bring down a wall

)

Name and shame the builder!

IronWarrior · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:41

How did that pass building or planning control?

Dave L · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:44

IronWarrior said:
How did that pass building or planning control?

Simple - it can't have done. Must be a DIY job, can't see a HA provider allowing it though, if it is a HA property.

LOAM · 27 Jan 2013 at 12:19

Probably wouldn't have needed either planning or building regs, its likely classed as a temporary structure and not big enough to qualify for regs. Many are proprietary off the shelf products that are pre calculated. Snow load most definitely caused it but ultimately its most likely cause of failure is in the wall its anchored into. It's also possible that they have added tiles onto it which is rather uncommon as they are usually polycarbonate.

Makhaira · 27 Jan 2013 at 12:23

All that for the sake of a single pillar :/

Evilsod · 27 Jan 2013 at 12:41

"You wouldn't think snow could do that would you"

Good god they interview some idiots. Cos snow never hurt anybody ><

SexyGreyFox · 27 Jan 2013 at 12:53

Dave L said:
Typical DailyFail type reporting this.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-21212792

I can't see why you are having a dig at the BBC because they are only running a story that has been given to them. It's as though you expect them to run detective work on every story given. Oh, and if it wasn't for the snow then it wouldn't have fallen down.