It's On! Floyd Mayweather - Conor McGregor **No discussions of illegal streams**

I've been watching lots of old Mayweather fights the last couple of nights.

Ricky Hatton. Did well for a while, got some good punches in and stunned Floyd but ultimately got knocked out.

Oscar De La Hoya. He did well, very aggressive, got Floyd on the ropes a few times and laid into him but never really hurt him and lost on split decision.

Zab Judah. About the same age as Floyd and was a reigning champion at the time of the fight. Looks just like Mayweather, bald and almost same build. Very sharp and fast, got lots of punches in but in the end lost.

Assuming Mayweather still has that sharpness of defence, ducking and diving, I just cannot see how McGregor can do as well, let alone any better, than the above 'proper' boxer's. And more than any other boxer I've seen, Mayweather keeps his gloves up in front of his face most of the time, so his chin is rarely vulnerable.
 
Hatton was a brawler and knew that if he couldnt get him down by going all out in the first handful of rounds, he was going to be a punching bag. He had a good go but at the end of the day, Mayweather was just too good defensively. As much as we all loved to say Hatton had a beer gut and never trained, he had okay fitness for a boxer and could reach the later rounds without running out of breath or wasting rounds on his back foot trying to regain it. On the other hand i dont think has it in him to reach the later rounds. I can see Mcgregor getting roughed up after he becomes a safe target.

Just because we have not seen Mayweather cause real damage for a while, does not mean he cant. Put him in front of a gassed out fighter or someone with holes in their defense and he will capitalise on it. McGregor is not half as skilled or fit as some of the boxers Mayweather has picked apart.
 
glen8 said:
Conor said this fight will quadruple his net worth for half a fight. He seems to think it will be easier than a UFC match...
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In the sense it's not a proper 'fight', more like 20% of a fight? He doesn't need to worry about elbows, knees, kicks etc. He can't outbox Floyd, he knows he can't and I don't believe he's planning to even try. The question is can he get through with a big shot? The longer the fight goes on, the more tired he becomes, the harder it will get and the more he'll get picked apart. It'll be a huge mental victory if he lasts the 12 rounds though with arguably 'the best boxer of all time'.

Instead of going after Floyd from the opening bell, I hope he sits back and lets Floyd come to him after all, the expectation will be on Floyd to dominate this 'amateur' and show him he doesn't belong in a boxing ring. I like Mcgregor, he's a smart fighter and he isn't afraid to take risks. Although he has no chance of outboxing Floyd he can certainly finish the night having embarrassed Floyd to a certain degree.

Floyd will not take any risks in the fight, he hasn't taken any risks in his entire career. As long as Mcgregor doesn't rush in all guns blazing and gas out inside 6 rounds, he can do okay. He's never going to win on points, so he shouldn't even try to. Maybe start with an unorthodox stance, do something completely different every round, force Mayweather to come forward and be aggressive, and maybe.. just maybe, he catches him flush on the chin. He won't catch his chin whilst Floyds on the back foot jabbing and shoulder rolling.
 
e36Adz said:
In the sense it's not a proper 'fight', more like 20% of a fight?
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A raw, real, proper fight is a street fight where anything goes. Does a street fight take place in an octagon cage with a ref making sure each fighter is behaving themselves? Does a street fight require the use of 4oz gloves? Does it bar targeting the eyes, etc. or from using weapons? Does it impose 5x5 minute rounds with periods for rest, water and trainer advice? Or in the months before a street fight, do both fighters submit to random drug tests?

"20% of a fight", my arse. If boxing isn't a proper fight, then MMA isn't either, because boxing and MMA are far closer to each other than they are a proper street fight, especially in this case since Conor is mainly a stand-up striker whose ground game is poor enough that he heavily avoids going to the ground. He's mainly about punches, kicks and defending takedowns, with stand-up punches being the biggest focus for him. He's still at a disadvantage here, but boxing doesn't take away as much as it would from other MMA fighters.

I'm no fan of Floyd, in fact I despise him and hope he gets knocked out here. But any world-level pro boxer from about light welterweight (140) upwards could KO Conor within seconds in a street fight. But Conor could catch Floyd and end it just as quickly, again in a street fight. In the octagon, Floyd would have a much better chance against Conor than he would against a strong ground-game fighter. Similarly, Conor would have far worse chances against a prime Pacquiao. So the Floyd/Conor match-up kinda works better in that way.

Again, Floyd still has a big advantage, and I really do hope he suffers a freak KO because the man is scum, but this circus act is what it is...$$$.
 
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Just for the hell of it, let's fantasise that Conor wins. Does this fight give him a welterweight belt or whatever weight they are, or is it meant to be a one off fight with no WBO or IBF titles involved?

What would happen next? Would he leave it at that or would he want to continue as a boxer? Would Floyd want a rematch?


By the way,

Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor: UFC star 'knocked out' during sparring session ahead of Las Vegas showdown.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-out-sparring-session-las-vegas-a7845626.html
 
Merlin5 said:
Just for the hell of it, let's fantasise that Conor wins. Does this fight give him a welterweight belt or whatever weight they are, or is it meant to be a one off fight with no WBO or IBF titles involved?
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No, because Mayweather has retired, he holds no belts....
 
Skunkworks said:
It's a spectrum with MMA being far closer to "real" than boxing.
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Nah. Boxing and MMA are far closer to each other than a ruleless, lawless, real fight. Especially so in Conor's case as his game is stand-up striking by far.

Edit: To be clearer, my point is that both are very far from a real fight, as I believe all the rules and regulations that each sport have matter far more than you might give credit for.
 
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viathinair said:
But any world-level pro boxer from about light welterweight (140) upwards could KO Conor within seconds in a street fight. But Conor could catch Floyd and end it just as quickly, again in a street fight.
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I was with you until this part here. Why does removing the rule set allow Conor to get KO'd in seconds? Nonsesne. Street fights are unpredictable.
 
Liquiduk said:
I was with you until this part here. Why does removing the rule set allow Conor to get KO'd in seconds? Nonsesne. Street fights are unpredictable.
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Sorry, should've been clearer. That was my point - that street fights are so extremely unpredictable. So a pro boxer could quickly KO Conor and Conor could do the same to a pro boxer (like Floyd) in a street fight. I didn't mean that removing all rules makes it easier for a boxer to win, just that any type of fighter could win due to unpredictability. Edit: And that unpredictability is mitigated in both sports, less so in MMA but it's still heavily mitigated there too.
 
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Merlin5 said:
Just for the hell of it, let's fantasise that Conor wins.
What would happen next? Would he leave it at that or would he want to continue as a boxer? Would Floyd want a rematch?
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It will be a freak win if it happens, he should walk away with that 100 million and bragging rights and not look back. With the amount of money that'll be involved in a rematch though he probably won't be able to say no, a freak win certainly isn't gonna happen a second time though.
 
I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this, but whatever. I love how it's always something along the lines of 'yeah, but in a street fight you can eye gouge', as if there are highly trained eye gougers out there ready to destroy everyone. If you're gouging somebodies eyeballs chances are your arm is about to be broken. The whole no rules thing is pure fantasy as it's literally a free for all as you'll be able to pick up weapons and your man can jump in if you're getting ****** up. Elite MMA fighters are the most likely to smash anyone and everyone in a 1v1 (does that even happen anymore?) street fight. Allowing eye-gouging and soccer kicks will not weaken an MMA fighter, in fact it'll strengthen their skill set.
 
I want Conor to win but I also actually want him to defend either of his MMA belts. It's actually a bit ridiculous how he's won 2 world titles and defended neither because of his antics fighting at different weight classes (Diaz).

If he beats Mayweather (however unlikely that is) I fear we will have to wait even longer for him to get back in the Octagon.
 
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