It's time to upgrade my Intel Core i5-3570K...

[mrgubby]

Not built a PC since 2013, it did what I needed (Photo editing & light gaming) so it's not been touched other than SSD/HD upgrades.

My latest camera kit has over double the resolution and now it's maxing out the system with the CPU at 100%

Not go a clue on the latest processors etc, I'd like to spend less than £1K on CPU/Motherboard/RAM, hopefully my existing PSU/GFX will be ok

Any ideas ?

OLD KIT
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Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
GeIL EVO Veloce Hot-Rod Red 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel
MSI Radeon R9 270X Gaming Edition LE 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

 

[turbot1984]

Not built a PC since 2013, it did what I needed (Photo editing & light gaming) so it's not been touched other than SSD/HD upgrades.

My latest camera kit has over double the resolution and now it's maxing out the system with the CPU at 100%

Not go a clue on the latest processors etc, I'd like to spend less than £1K on CPU/Motherboard/RAM, hopefully my existing PSU/GFX will be ok

Any ideas ?

OLD KIT
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Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
GeIL EVO Veloce Hot-Rod Red 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel
MSI Radeon R9 270X Gaming Edition LE 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Based on benchmarks I would go with 12700KF system ...... No DDR5 RAM in stock is only issue, but you could use DDR4.



My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail= £374.99
• 1 x MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk WIFI DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £259.99

Total: £645.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

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[jigger]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte X570S GAMING X (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £179.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700G Eight Core 3.8GHz (Socket AM4) APU with RX Vega Graphics - Retail= £329.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £128.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler - 120mm= £24.95

Total: £674.42 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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[jigger]

It might be worth adding an NVME drive assuming you are using SATA SSD’s.

 

[JollyJamma]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte X570S GAMING X (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £179.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700G Eight Core 3.8GHz (Socket AM4) APU with RX Vega Graphics - Retail= £329.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £128.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler - 120mm= £24.95

Total: £674.42 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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I prefer this build to the 12700KF Intel build. Yes, the Intel is faster but it's significantly worse value and you'll need a new GPU at some point soon so the AMD system leaves you with £300 left over.

I would go for this build if it was me (adding an AMD RX 580 8gig GPU later on. I noted the timings of the RAM was better than the RGB alternative at the same price):

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £129.95
• 1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £74.99
• 1 x Super Flower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black= £64.99
• 1 x Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit= £128.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £389.99

Total: £800.01 (includes shipping: £11.10)

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[turbot1984]

I prefer this build to the 12700KF Intel build. Yes, the Intel is faster but it's significantly worse value and you'll need a new GPU at some point soon so the AMD system leaves you with £300 left over.

Why would you buy an APU then a gpu afterwards. @mrgubby already has a gpu that is faster than the RX Vega onboard graphics?

 

[turbot1984]

I prefer this build to the 12700KF Intel build. Yes, the Intel is faster but it's significantly worse value and you'll need a new GPU at some point soon so the AMD system leaves you with £300 left over.

I would go for this build if it was me (adding an AMD RX 580 8gig GPU later on. I noted the timings of the RAM was better than the RGB alternative at the same price):

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £129.95
• 1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £74.99
• 1 x Super Flower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black= £64.99
• 1 x Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit= £128.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £389.99

Total: £800.01 (includes shipping: £11.10)

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soz, thought you had reposted the 5700G option ... I would still go 12700k route though as its faster

 

[jigger]

Why would you buy an APU then a gpu afterwards. @mrgubby already has a gpu that is faster than the RX Vega onboard graphics?

Why would buy an Intel chip with graphics then a GPU?

The 5700g is good way to get a single chip 8c 16t part at a reduced price. It would be ideal for the workload the OP is looking at.

 

[turbot1984]

Why would buy an Intel chip with graphics then a GPU?

The 5700g is good way to get a single chip 8c 16t part at a reduced price. It would be ideal for the workload the OP is looking at.

it ain't got no onboard graphics? the OP's gpu is a bit of a weak link with 12700kf but its better than 5700G graphics?
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - OEM= £359.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £184.99

Total: £555.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

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[jigger]

it ain't got no onboard graphics? the OP's gpu is a bit of a weak link with 12700kf but its better than 5700G graphics?
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - OEM= £359.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £184.99

Total: £555.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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You mis the point, but the graphics is just disabled or faulty on Intel. You still pay for it.

 

[turbot1984]

You mis the point, but the graphics is just disabled or faulty on Intel. You still pay for it.

the OEM 12700K (with graphics) is £20 more. For someone without a gpu I would say have a look at the 5700G as gpu prices are crazy, not the case here though

 

[jigger]

the OEM 12700K (with graphics) is £20 more. For someone without a gpu I would say have a look at the 5700G as gpu prices are crazy, not the case here though

Of course not, but not everyone is as anti AMD as you are. Intel are still charging for the graphics part of the chip if it’s disabled or not.

 

[turbot1984]

Of course not, but not everyone is as anti AMD as you are. Intel are still charging for the graphics part of the chip if it’s disabled or not.

I'm not anti AMD, the fact is Alder Lake is better at photo editing etc. than Ryzen for the same or less money.

 

[Joxeon]

The 12700kf is a long way ahead of the 5700G for not much more money so not sure why you would consider a 5700G unless you need the onboard graphics and even then the 12700K is only a few quid more with onboard of its own.

 

[jigger]

Many photo editing applications leverage APU’s and GPUs along with CPU cores. The 5700G is ideal for this type of work load.

 

[Joxeon]

The 5700G is ideal for this type of work load.

Maybe show some benchmarks then to back up your claim like @turbot1984 did.

 

[mrgubby]

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, it looks like I'll be building a system based on a 12700KF


@turbot1984 & @Joxeon , thanks for the info. It made interesting reading

 

[turbot1984]

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, it looks like I'll be building a system based on a 12700KF


@turbot1984 & @Joxeon , thanks for the info. It made interesting reading

No worries, Good luck with the build

 

[mrgubby]

No worries, Good luck with the build

I could do the build in my sleep (never bought a PC, been making them since 80286 days) , it's the setting up the software up again that's going to take the time ( and the question of going straight for Win 11)

 

[turbot1984]

I could do the build in my sleep (never bought a PC, been making them since 80286 days) , it's the setting up the software up again that's going to take the time ( and the question of going straight for Win 11)

I would go straight for Win 11 as nicely optimized with Alder Lake.