ITX To ATX: Raijintek PAN Slim *dual loop complete

orbitalwalsh · 4 Apr 2021 at 19:52

Good evening folks !

I was lucky enough to be granted Raijintek's new Pan Slim ITX case ... Actually I begged as I've been working at home. A home that's 2 bedrooms with 3 kids and a wife that went to town at IKEA on the living room during lockdown , so needed to up my work spaces quality of life .

https://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=146

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxfTwV3zrNXwnZQoVb-fnew

Caught the case on the Pre-order on here and thought that it could house my mad ATX build in Silverstone's RVZ03 ITX better, with more class, refinement, quality and not be a pizza oven !

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Raijintek Pan Slim Mini-ITX Case - silver= £189.95
1 x Raijintek Pan Slim Mini-ITX Case - black= £189.95
2 x Raijintek Pan Slim Mini-ITX Case - white= £189.95

Total: £784.94 (includes shipping: £25.14)

So the idea was pitched to them that I could house an ATX board in their ITX case, along with possible ATX PSU and higher spec watercooling that's listed on their site .
Also, since I'd be able to get the case sooner, help potential users show the potential of the cases water cooling abilities ! Yes a 560 rad can actually fit in there , but more easily a slim 480 or 240/60 + 360 slim combo . Honestly the case is limitless .

Hopefully mod comes out more polished then the RVZ03, which involved a lot of cutting and ghetto modding . Also Raijintek will be enlightened to slightly retool the case to allow ATX to be dropped in , ATX to be used as an Option and greater emphasis on the cases water cooling abilities in ITX format !

Yes, it holds 10kg worth if weight, and the dimensions match that of a 27" screen
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Was built to match hemnes/Nesta !
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Legs can be changed ! And the wife's mini Mac is hidden from my view
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Quality feel personally is above Dynamic I've got in the shed and equal to my TJ07 from many years ago ! Paint work is finished well
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Can't help but feel how cool would a glass front be...
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Standard front ports
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Grills where it counts ! Above GPU and AIO area, metal mesh above
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Can't help but feel would love to see bent wood panels being offered !
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Lots of vents underneath, case should be ran in positive config with cold in at the bottom and warm out the top ! Negative, no filters as the bitten but easy solution...
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Top mesh I mentioned View attachment MPPWvuQ.jpg
Nice back end , wide !
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Now to me, 4th PCI slot could and should have been added . You'll see spacing later on
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Top panel help by 4 screws , sunken in View attachment UCoVc8R.jpg
SFX/L can be mounted heads or tails and sits above the bottom of the chassis by 10mm odd, no filter View attachment lyveZfU.jpg

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As mentioned it can take 10KG, via 3 struts on the chassis with two braces of the bent 3mm thick aluminium top shell View attachment 9f46DVr.jpg
Minds shooting off but needs to open with hydraulic hinges
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So much space... That will be filled with ATX !
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Again run positive pressure and lots of vents
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Black chassis , top and bottom shell is bolted via the side, 3 braces bolted to the top of the chassis View attachment XKPWyYV.jpg
340mm max GPU, support holder
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orbitalwalsh · 4 Apr 2021 at 22:27

On to ATX placement, seeing GPU distances, AIO install and other ideas

According to Raijintek's page, max AIO config is 240/27mm thick rad with 25mm fans ...
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I'm getting 85mm worth of height here
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Alphacools fancy clad 54mm tall rad with 25mm fans ...
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54mm + 25mm + 4-5mm odd space left
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I think 60mm + standard fans is a good to go ! 90degree compression fittings would be needed as has extra 10mm clearance to the top of the roof

I'm guessing they are taking extremes with AIO tubing not being so flexible .....

After wanting an ITX case with ATX board within ... I got the modding bug with the RVZ03 but knew that would take work... The PAN slim.. it's a crime it doesn't accept as default since it just slots in and works !
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Slapped in a dual slot GPU (my own is currently a triple slot ) and it looks like a Triple slot GPU would just fit in and not touch the PCI slot
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orbitalwalsh · 5 Apr 2021 at 12:09

Following the above, I managed to get some measurements for those looking to use the case with the possibility of watercooling the GPU/dual radiator without modding .

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Good gap between backplate of the GPU and roof of the chassis vent , 20mm odd View attachment xDHqfBL.jpg
Using a dual slot GPU as reference , you've got 40mm clearance
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With 25mm fan on top , radiator being used as placement is EKWB SE 240/27mm
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Personal opinion is to use XSPC TX 20.5mm rad with Alphacools server low Profile rotary compression fittings

orbitalwalsh · 5 Apr 2021 at 19:52

Width the dimensions of the case, technically you can get away with ATX PSU inside, ideally a small 140 rather then the 185mm BeQuiet units I've tested with .

Reference cards that have a standard PCI width would work nicely with the larger PSU

How tight ?
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This tight
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Hugs the curve as well as the rivet used so why it's not flush
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Lays within the land
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Would require 4 new holes for.mountinf and cut out for the Kettle lead.
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Or I could use this to offset back into the case a little
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120mm could be used with a smaller unit
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Also swapped in the Aorus 2080 Xtreme

L=290 W=134.31 H=59.9 mm

To see if it would clash with the PCI slots along with what kind of airflow the card would get ...
And then mounted the full fat PSU next to a wider card , GTX 1660 was current place holder

L=280 W=116 H=40 mm

, so almost a good 20mm different in width

Looking sharp

Does look tight

Yep, but no clashes

3080/90 Aorus Quad slot GPU should work or triple slot + 15mm fan

GPU support is solid ! Can see roughly 50mm left of space

Think I'll cut 4th bracket hole and move the card one up

Soo.. will fat PSU work

Yes !

orbitalwalsh · 8 Apr 2021 at 14:39

Afternoon .

Managed to shoe horn the system together today. Had to take out SFX due to cables not being long enough (extension ordered ) and using the huge BeQuiet PSU !

Just before hand I managed to place the 2 slot GPU over the current low profile AIO (20mm rad + 15mm fan) at roughly the highest PCI mounting point. Should show that a Waterblocks GPU would work with either a 20mm Rad with 25mm or 27/30mm rad with 15mm fan .

Lined up

So hears the system currently

Alphacool is kindly sending some goodies to watercool this beast ! New CPU block, GPU block as well as 60mm thick 240 and small pump unit ! Time being I'll use the server fittings But I do have hard tubing & fittings to use

The GPU as sitting cooler then when In the RVZ03 , along with CPU ! System would hard shut down due to Something overheating .

Running positive pressure is a must in this case ! Will stop dust being pulled in from the side, and GPU /CPU heat gets pushed out nicely out the top/sides

And again thanks to Raijintek !

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxfTwV3zrNXwnZQoVb-fnew

orbitalwalsh · 12 Apr 2021 at 21:07

Still awaiting the water hear but swapped around the rads just to see perform of extra slim rad/fan Vs big and standard ... 2700 running at 4Ghz with 1.4v the temps dropped from 80c to 65c which was nice !

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Really looking forward to getting the UT60 in there ! Should allow slower rpm and better performance then the Clad 45mm core in their currently
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Will say that after these shots, extension came in for the SFX so that's gone back in. Unfortunately ATX PSU will not work with the Aorus dressed in a waterblock
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Also swapped to Silent wing fans after this as the kids have me a 5 min breathing space
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Picturing this in red for some reason...

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Did uncover that RGB actually looks lovely shining out of the case into other surfaces

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orbitalwalsh · 16 Apr 2021 at 14:24

Going full water... But no 60mm 240 .

Massive thanks to Alphacool

And will just do a sep loop for GPU. Will hard-line once I sort out a 54-60mm rad

orbitalwalsh · 17 Apr 2021 at 08:57

So, whilst kids were eating their breakfast I started to rip and swap the stock Aorus cooler for Alphacools block (keeping stock backplate )

And it works ! But damn !!!

End result of a quick test fit

Low profile server fittings are a must

Need to sort out the support brace and flip it 180

Take 40mm spacing , as all blocks are did but Alphacool is one of the thickest . That's XSPC TX 20mm rad + 15mm fan for a dual loop 240 set up with an ITX board

orbitalwalsh · 17 Apr 2021 at 18:28

So , not just the GPU width that's too get but the pump unit that will power the GPU/combi loop at a later point

About 10mm clearance from the top panel I think !
And also the width , should just be able to squeeze between the mobo and side of the chassis !

24pin might be the issue
Below picture. SSD cage to the left is 70mm wide , Eisstation is 82mm

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orbitalwalsh · 18 Apr 2021 at 09:59

Dual loop complete !!

Gutted no UT60 but will have to see

Underneath , again can get XSPC 20.5mm rad and 15mm fans with Alphacool server fittings just fine !

5yr old son helped with the leak testing , making sure plenty of static charge was on hand ...

Let is glow

Temp and speed wish . Running bench was 85-90c with boost holding 1850 now it's 1950+ and 55-60c ...

And SILENCE !!!

orbitalwalsh · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:35

Man.. need to get some custom cables !
Starting to think I should be able to get away with only using on cable to the GPU instead of two ...

Thinking I could run 24pin and 8pin under the motherboard . Should hide some of the mess.
90 degree for USB 3.0 finally turned up so that's more cables in the top right that can be out into play

Now, few choices for rads. Currently GPU is 120/30mm but will be be in combined loop .
I have Noctua on board so was think NF-A12x25 &15s

XT45 + Push/Pull NF-A12x15 (45+15+15= 75mm)
XT45 + Push or Pull A12x25 (45+25=70mm)
UT60 + Push or Pull A12x25 (60+25=85mm Max tolerance)

120 rad position isn't under vent area so air has to be forced out the case with positive pressure, unlike CPU loop which exhausts directly to a top panel vent .

Mind.. the vents are covered is the most restrictive mesh !

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Plan will be to get the heat gun out and remove and do a demciflex filter ! Top and bottom panels are Aluminium

Defy Belief · 1 May 2021 at 17:33

Awesome, might get one of these

Donnie Fisher · 1 May 2021 at 21:14

Really impressive to get it to fit in there.

orbitalwalsh · 2 May 2021 at 16:53

Defy Belief said:
Awesome, might get one of these

Quality is really good

Donnie Fisher said:
Really impressive to get it to fit in there.

should have been ATX as standard . Specs aren't listed the best personally as so much can fit in !

Defy Belief · 10 May 2021 at 08:58

@orbitalwalsh out of interest, did you measure if a 560 rad would fit? I remember in the other thread you thought it might but ocuks measurements differed to raijinteks.

Hewligan · 22 Sep 2021 at 07:10

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am considering one of these cases for a full custom loop living room VR setup. I cannot find proper case measurements anywhere online to help with planning the part list, so just wondering if either the OP is around or any other owners out there that can offer some insights.

Initial thoughts are to use a DDC pump/top that I own (spare), with a CPU block I own (also spare), an RTX 3080 or Ti (I own a 3080 that is in a water block that I may move to this system and then put a 3060 Ti in my current PC), and at least 2 big radiators internally, but ideally as much rad space as I can physically fit. Reservoir will either be a tiny flow meter repurposed, or I will buy one that fits the case.

Lastly, looking at the photos it appears that there may even be room to fit a watercooled GPU directly above the motherboard by cutting new PCI slots into the case. I think that would require a side entry/exit CPU pump (Alphacool make one), and likely low profile and downward adapters for the GPU, or a rear entry/exit G1/4 water block. If this worked, you could then install a 280mm thick radiator where the GPU is meant to go, and another thick 240mm radiator in the normal position. That would provide huge cooling potential.

Jay85 · 22 Sep 2021 at 11:29

Pretty nuts build man! Well done!

Darren_uk · 6 Oct 2021 at 11:55

Defy Belief said:
orbitalwalsh

Great work Matey Love the Case & Super work on Cooling

Nice slim case to save space.

Distracted · 12 Oct 2021 at 20:45

I love this. When you said ITX I was expecting a smaller case, but seeing the ATX board in there really puts the size into perspective.

Robotanv · 8 Mar 2022 at 12:52

orbitalwalsh said:
On to ATX placement, seeing GPU distances, AIO install and other ideas

According to Raijintek's page, max AIO config is 240/27mm thick rad with 25mm fans ...
View attachment yTdHPG8.jpg
I'm getting 85mm worth of height here
View attachment 6UOj3XZ.jpg
Alphacools fancy clad 54mm tall rad with 25mm fans ...
View attachment rkcQxl2.jpg
54mm + 25mm + 4-5mm odd space left
View attachment lW5t5Z1.jpg
I think 60mm + standard fans is a good to go ! 90degree compression fittings would be needed as has extra 10mm clearance to the top of the roof

I'm guessing they are taking extremes with AIO tubing not being so flexible .....

After wanting an ITX case with ATX board within ... I got the modding bug with the RVZ03 but knew that would take work... The PAN slim.. it's a crime it doesn't accept as default since it just slots in and works !
View attachment auFDDb0.jpg
Slapped in a dual slot GPU (my own is currently a triple slot ) and it looks like a Triple slot GPU would just fit in and not touch the PCI slot
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Hi!
Sorry to resurrect an old thread..
Did the ATX motherboard secure to the case using the ITX mounts? Or did you have to mod the case?