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I’ve been scammed please help

Discussion in 'Motors' started by fadetoblack, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. Gaygle

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    How much was the car? I'm assuming it's in the order of about £2500 or so. If you think he's going to pay £107 for just a diagnosis, plus whatever the fix is on top of this, i think you're in for a bit of a shock :/
     
  2. fadetoblack

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    Many thanks it seems I am screwed you think it’s worth me reporting him to trading standards I’ve got all his ads and receipt trading as a company also the dash cam video of him selling 2 cars? Just to screw him over
     
  3. wonder_lander

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    Is it still covered by the 7 year warranty directly with KIA?
     
  4. grudas

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    why go to kia? go to an indy with good auto-electrician get it fixed and chase him for the money.

    you're complicating this more than you need and the "I've been scammed" title is a bit dramatic.
     
  5. fadetoblack

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    Sorry for the title I do struggle with correct wording my apologies
     
  6. james.miller

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    None of you lot seem worried that the guy is trading under the name of a company that doesn't exist any more? Bizarre.
     
  7. Avalon

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    While I don't excuse this guy's behaviour, your reaction and posts seem to be overly dramatic, from what you've said I get that this isn't how you wanted to appear, but if this is representative of the way you communicate with him, it's probably not the best way to go about things.

    He doesn't have to be listed at companies house, if he ceased trading as a limited company - and wasn't restricted in doing so - nothing to stop him being a sole trader as long as he drops the LTD status. As to selling cars, you could push the trading standards angle, but they are largely toothless in this scenario and have been cut to the bone in terms of staff in most areas.

    When going to small claims court, the test is one of being reasonable. Is it reasonable to take a 7y/o car to a main franchise dealer for a generic fault that doesn't require OEM level diagnostics and pay £107+ cost of parts and any additional labour, relative to it's price/condition at the time of sale and when purchased from a sale trader operating off his drive? Probably not. This is likely basic work, your average high school kid with a multimeter would likely be able to diagnose - I replaced a door sensor earlier this year for £6.95 delivered.

    At best you have the work done (you pay), you take him to small claims court (you pay), he refuses mediation and/or to settle so it goes to court (you pay more), you go to court (time off - claim for it, but again you 'pay' via lost holidays etc.), you win and obtain a CCJ, you then need enforcement (you pay) and if that's unsuccessful, you need to pay to escalate it (again, you pay). By now you'll have been dealing with this for months, likely invested days of your time in all of the above along with hundreds of pounds. If you think it's worth all of this over what is likely to be a simple/inexpensive repair, then have at it. Personally i'd send him a recorded delivery explain that you would prefer to resolve this without having to go to small claims court if it's a simple fix, but if he isn't able to arrange for someone to look at the car within 7 days, you'll arrange for an independent garage to get the work done and come after him for the money. He probably has a few hundred quid in this car, if it comes down to £60 for someone else to look at it and £15 in parts, then that's likely to be a lot easier to stomach for him than a few hundred at Kia (same brand who try and sell people £3xx of replacement keys when someone asks for a replacement shell for the fob).
     
  8. fadetoblack

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    Thank you for the above it makes sense again I apologise cheers
     
  9. HoneyBadger

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    Have you checked all fuses and relays?
     
  10. fadetoblack

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    Checked the fuse and the fob and keys unlock the locks fine
     
  11. Uther

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    Short of going to his house and giving him a good hiding (I don't condone this...) you might as well chalk it up to experience and try and get it fixed yourself as cheaply as possible.
     
  12. muon

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    I agree. Report him to the FBI.

    If you search autotrader for the cheapest of any vehicle, almost all of them will be dodgy traders evading tax and simply flipping cars.
     
  13. Woodsta888

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    Most cars come with more than one key. How many did you get? You've changed the battery in the fob? Mine (toyota) will unlock the car but not lock when the battery goes low. I'd go back round to the guy and ask him to show you how it locks with the fob. Check all fobs first and if only one has a remote - change the battery. The pads in the fobs can break also so maybe down to a faulty fob and nothing to do with the car.

    £107 for a diagnosis! Jeez can buy a decent fault reader yourself for that to be used on any car and charge mates a tenner to read theirs.
     
  14. fadetoblack

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    One key and changed the battery on the fob door locks don’t lock using the key but does unlocks the door locks
     
  15. Diagro

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    Probably find it's the wrong fob.
     
  16. fadetoblack

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    But it unlocks it?
     
  17. grudas

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    do some googling.

    kia *model* remote keyfob programming etc.

    or go to an indie and see if they can help.
     
  18. Duke

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    Someone nearby is getting cheesed off :D
     
  19. Semple

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    :D que new thread on OCUK motors - my kia keeps locking/unlocking by itself.
     
  20. OpenToSuggestions

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    Bought.