ive just thought of something, why is there no xbox

muggs · 8 Sep 2009 at 14:42

slim.

or would it not be beneficial for microsoft financially.

would be good to see one, good chance to get the design better so it does not red as much

Robert1986 · 8 Sep 2009 at 14:45

Wouldn't they get into trouble if they made a newer model that fixed the overheating issues?

I remember reading that somewhere.

Would be interesting if they did redesign the system though.

r3loaded · 8 Sep 2009 at 14:53

Well, the new Jasper design has fixed all the RROD problems, as well as brought better cooling to the Xbox. So no need really.

Robert1986 · 8 Sep 2009 at 14:55

r3loaded said:
Well, the new Jasper design has fixed all the RROD problems, as well as brought better cooling to the Xbox. So no need really.

Doesn't it just give you a different error when it overheats instead of the RROD?

PiKe · 8 Sep 2009 at 14:56

Because they have better things to do than try and sell their console by making it smaller. Besides, it's already selling well.

Robert1986 · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:01

PiKe said:
Because they have better things to do than try and sell their console by making it smaller.

There are still people put off buying a 360 because of the failure issues.

They still need to do better in Japan. A smaller more compact console with an internal power supply could spike sales over there.

PiKe · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:03

Robert1986 said:
There are still people put off buying a 360 because of the failure issues.

They still need to do better in Japan. A smaller more compact console with an internal power supply could spike sales over there.

No matter what they do it will never sell well in Japan.

Nymins · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:07

No point in a slim version really. They are being more sensible and dropping the price of their models even more so than they already have done.

Kreeeee · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:29

Robert1986 said:
There are still people put off buying a 360 because of the failure issues.

They still need to do better in Japan. A smaller more compact console with an internal power supply could spike sales over there.

Size is clearly not an issue as the enormous frame of the PS3 shows (and console shrinking boosts sales in all regions). It's the fact that the 360 is made by an American company that's the bigger issue, along with the games being oriented towards the western market.

Margaret · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:31

Not needed, it's not that big as it is.

Failure rate has already decreased dramatically, I would like to see the power brick abolished but it's not too big an issue...it's definitely annoying though when wanting to take it round a friends.

ic1male · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:32

Japanese are not huge fans of "confrontation" which is the core of all western-style FPS multiplayer and most those games are core to the Xbox. I notice on PS3 Battlefield 1943 they mostly all play as snipers.

Kreeeee · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:33

ic1male said:
Japanese are not huge fans of "confrontation" which is the core of all western-style FPS multiplayer. I notice on PS3 Battlefield 1943 they mostly all play as snipers.

Why are they so fanatical about competitive fighting games?

ic1male · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:34

Kreeeee said:
Why are they so fanatical about competitive fighting games?

Theory out of the water then!

Do they play over the net anonymously though?

PiKe · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:35

ic1male said:
Theory out of the water then! Do they play over the net anonymously though?

That ruins your BF theory then if they do.

Margaret · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:35

ic1male said:
Theory out of the water then! Do they play over the net anonymously though?

How do you mean anonymously? I see lots of Japanese players when searching for matches on SF IV, they user gamertags as normal of course.

Red and White · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:40

ic1male said:
Japanese are not huge fans of "confrontation"

lol. what is your basis for this statement. japan are a country who have made more marital arts and monster movies (godzilla etc) that anyone on the planet. plus they decided it would be a good idea to bomb pearl habour

ic1male · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:40

By anonymously I mean against strangers, moreso foreigners. Do they play against people on their friends' list or will they play against anyone?

I know it's rather silly to try and group a whole nation into one kettle of fish but I'd say they are a) reserved, don't like associating with complete strangers over the net and b) there is no gun culture so FPSes are not their thing. Most J-games are melee or magic based when it comes to combat.

And I don't know why I'm trying to work out why the Xbox 360 hasn't sold in Japan. If I knew the answer, I'd sell it to Microsoft for $$$.

PiKe · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:42

ic1male said:
I know it's rather silly to try and group a whole nation into one kettle of fish but I'd say they are a) reserved, don't like associating with complete strangers over the net and b) there is no gun culture so FPSes are not their thing. Most J-games are melee or magic based when it comes to combat.

Just LOL, stop talking

Margaret · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:45

ic1male said:
By anonymously I mean against strangers, moreso foreigners. Do they play against people on their friends' list or will they play against anyone?

Obviously anyone because as I said I see lots of Japanese players hosting games on Street Fighter IV.

Also Guitar Freaks and Drummania are popular in Japan for competitions IIRC.

Edit: Forgot that lots of Japanese players travel for fighting game tournaments and have to take on lots of people they won't have met, so I don't think they are worried about confrontation.

Kreeeee · 8 Sep 2009 at 16:44

ic1male said:
Theory out of the water then! Do they play over the net anonymously though?

Nope, the vast majority (and in this case it's in the ninty percent plus region!) play in local arcades and not even on consoles/PC! So even less will play online. There are pretty much no online fighting game players in Japan

They are pretty zenophobic when a foreigner comes to their country and plays in their arcades, just check out Sabin's Japan arcade gaming log on shoryuken.com!