Seem rather complicated, the BMW system much easier with the rubber puck
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Jack Pads - which ones ?
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But again if you are using a puck on the jacking point to lift a Mini, where does the Axle stand go?
Jack stand should go under the jack. on the bar under the cup.
Axle stand -find a solid part the subframe. Maybe with a piece of wood on top. Depends what you lifting the car for i guess
Heres a video from a quick search, no need to create a thread, especially in a non Audi focused forum
Axle stand -find a solid part the subframe. Maybe with a piece of wood on top. Depends what you lifting the car for i guess
Heres a video from a quick search, no need to create a thread, especially in a non Audi focused forum
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Which is fine, but unless you know what a "solid part of the subframe" is (which given that I'm NOT sticking my head underneath a car on only a jack for long enough to have a good look around), it's of no help whatsoever to a noob like me.
Why Manufacturers can't clearly mark and include them in the manual is beyond me.
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yes you put on the lower control arm ? I wouldn't do that similar to comments in the threads I'd read
e: bmw e36 I used to jack with the inbuilt sill holes and their wheel jack , and then put the axel stand on the pad inbuilt into the sill
frankly they don't expect people to diy now.
e2: yes I've usually taken off a wheel and that is under the sill too, nearer front,, so that will probably save me.
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Well if you can’t tell yourself then don’t work on cars would be the obvious answer. Many cars have clear lifting and stand points in the manual for noobs.
The subframe bolts are pretty obvious hard points to use as axle stand points.
Goes without saying to ensure the trolley jack wheels can roll ( ply etc) and the car is parked on the flat too.
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You absolutely do not put an axle stand on a suspension arm ever!
The chance of it slipping is way too great to risk.
Mods, I’m not trolling jpaul here, but if one can’t figure out how to jack a car up correctly, then that person imo shouldn’t be trying to do anything mechanical on said car.
The chance of it slipping is way too great to risk.
Mods, I’m not trolling jpaul here, but if one can’t figure out how to jack a car up correctly, then that person imo shouldn’t be trying to do anything mechanical on said car.
It’s not on the arm…
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The only jacking points mentioned in the R56 Mini manual (and indeed most recent-ish cars I've owned) are the ones that a supplied jack fits (i.e. the ones you linked a picture of above)
Which I'm sure are pretty obvious if you do it day in day out, but as noob looking at a likely rust covered underside of the car, then they aren't "obvious".
How hard would it be for manufacturers to paint a big yellow cross on the suggested points underneath?
I don't yet own a trolley jack, but I was aware of that. And already use a large sheet of thick ply when using the "emergency" scissor jack on the couple of occasions I've needed to jack a car up.
Don’t understand why you are replying to me like this. You are a self claimed ‘noob’ yet expect working on cars to be for everyone ? There is some inferred self competence if you DIY. A Yellow cross would soon be covered in dirt so not sure what value that has
That Jack puck is for my M3 which has jacking points and stand points. (And extra ones if you understand how a subframe works )
I’ve tried to help the OP with advice and some videos for his audi b9
That Jack puck is for my M3 which has jacking points and stand points. (And extra ones if you understand how a subframe works )
I’ve tried to help the OP with advice and some videos for his audi b9
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You’ll get a roll eyes for that
audi b9 ... yes I realise you never put anything on control arm (I was being sarcastic e:about the video)
the two bolts behind each control arm attachment , aren't a big surface , and are a bit too inboard ... but you see the difficulty ?
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Because as much as everyone loves to jump on the @jpaul mockery bandwagon, I can kind of see the point in this instance.
I'm a noob in that I lack experience, not necessarily competence or "skill". No I don't expect it to be for everyone (in the same way Electrical work and Gas work isn't for everyone), but there's no need for elitist "gating" for something as basic as this.
By your reckoning, I shouldn't be working on cars which is fine, but I'm proud of myself for the few jobs I've managed to do (including but not limited to replacing 2 different sensors, unblocking a washer pump, replacing a broken fog light, changing and coding a battery, realigning an electric window, replacing broken trim clips on wheel arches and door cards), saving myself no doubt a considerable amount compared to paying someone - and learning quite a lot in the process.
Maybe, maybe not. But honestly would it be so hard to provide a photo with arrows in the owners manual?
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It's not in the manufacturers interest to do this.
They highlight underbonnet maintenance items like the dipstick and squirter reservoir, but this is for the standard regular checks and top ups.
The manufacturers don't want owners putting the car on stands and going underneath.
Indeed. And why they spend a lot on time writing workshop manuals for the people they intend for work to be carried out by
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Sill flanges are reiniforced to take the point load, why would you want to put the load on the open box section either side of it?
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Too expensive manual process, paint would only remain visible as long as its clean, which it wont be. Its not needed, hence its beyond you but not the whole industry of service and mechanics. Hope this helps clarify.
reasonably categoric thread - marked side pinch welds that's all they give you (maybe chatgpt will be useful one day)
Yes i ended up doing the same thing, skinny hand-crank jack and jack stands right next to each other did the job. Cumbersome but works.
