Was reluctant to post this one but it is an interesting one in terms of how things can be stretched in the current climate from limited info and a viral video only showing part of an incident into outrage and rioting/local businesses burned down. This is the incident that started several days of rioting in Kenosha.
Below is part of a post that went a bit waffly in the Trump thread - please try to keep any Trump/US politics discussion in there, this is intended to be more about the incident itself and how it gets reported, social media and reaction on the streets etc...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jacob_Blake
A black alleged "rapist" or alleged sexual assualter (technically he'd previously "raped" the victim by forcably penetrating her with his finger, in front of their child) turned up at his victim's house armed with a knife (she's also his on off GF and "baby momma") while still wanted by police(outstanding warrant for sexual assault, domestic abuse) and stole her keys... he goes outside, police arrive and there is a scuffle, they scuffle with him on the grass at the rear passenger side of the car, then he pulls the knife and they get back from him, they try a taser... doesn't work...then he goes around to his car and opens the door - from the POV of the officer (given this is the US and guns are everywhere and he's only just pulled a knife on them) they don't let him go any further and shoot him 7 times in the back as he reaches into the car.. no gun is found.
Was it excessive - sure, perhaps it was, perhaps a second taser could have been deployed, perhaps an officer could have taken a greater risk with the presence of a knife and tackled him... (do they absolutely have to take a risk like that though when they have firearms?). This guy is now hospitalised and potentially paralised from the waist down.
The way it was portrayed though was the usual rush to outcry - the clip shown was a viral one only showing the later part of the incident on the driver's side of the car - all we see is him moving around to open his car door and the police officer shooting him in the back.. out of context it looks horrific. Twitter blows up, celebrities tweet it - another example of racist policing - here this is another completely irrelevant clip of the cops conducting a traffic stop on an angry white person notice how he doesn't get shot.... therefore racism.
The media certainly doesn't help matters, ket bits of info are omitted or drip fed post outrage - outrage is better for news events. With the interviews of his family being presented the way they were plenty of people were left with the impression that he'd been killed by the police... "say his name" etc.. certainly the fact he was a sex offender and domestic abuser turning up at his victim's address wasn't very prominent as that does undermine the narrative, that he was armed with a knife was left ambiguous too - drip fed as a knife being found in the car... (eagle eyed social media users spotted he was seemingly carrying it in the video footage days ago) the more pertinent detail that it was found in the car because he'd pulled the knife out when struggling with officers and still had it in his hand when going back and reaching into the car was left out still initially... it has only come out now not because of information from the local prosecutor but because the police union has confirmed it.
He was originally handcuffed to his bed in hosptial, this got some negative publicity (though apparently is standard there), he's now not as the warrants are not in force thanks ot him posting a bond (presumably from the donations that have flooded in) - one dubious aspect of this, now this guy is a celebrated victim of police brutality is the awkward nature of his outstanding charge for sexual assualt - will there now be presure on a sexual assualt victim to drop the charges so Jacob Blake can carry on being held up as a victim or will they drop him quietly and no longer say his name?
So far over 2 million dollars have been raised on gofundme for a domestic abuser/sexual assualter who turned up to his victim's house with a knife - someone who abuses women shouldn't ordinarily be a SJW cause celebre but sometiems it seems things are so far gone that the identity politics part is more improtant to some than his actions - he wasn't some random person who happened to be black, the police were called by the victim specifically to deal with him and knew he was wanted:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/justiceforjacobblake
Even gofundme is political now - the unhinged LARPer cop wannabe kid who shot three had his fundraiser pulled pretty quickly by the site... his is hosted on some conservative christian fundraising site.
Initial footage released:
Second angle:
How CNN portrays the second angle/additional footage:
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2...g-second-video-family-attorney-newday-vpx.cnn
Below is part of a post that went a bit waffly in the Trump thread - please try to keep any Trump/US politics discussion in there, this is intended to be more about the incident itself and how it gets reported, social media and reaction on the streets etc...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jacob_Blake
A black alleged "rapist" or alleged sexual assualter (technically he'd previously "raped" the victim by forcably penetrating her with his finger, in front of their child) turned up at his victim's house armed with a knife (she's also his on off GF and "baby momma") while still wanted by police(outstanding warrant for sexual assault, domestic abuse) and stole her keys... he goes outside, police arrive and there is a scuffle, they scuffle with him on the grass at the rear passenger side of the car, then he pulls the knife and they get back from him, they try a taser... doesn't work...then he goes around to his car and opens the door - from the POV of the officer (given this is the US and guns are everywhere and he's only just pulled a knife on them) they don't let him go any further and shoot him 7 times in the back as he reaches into the car.. no gun is found.
Was it excessive - sure, perhaps it was, perhaps a second taser could have been deployed, perhaps an officer could have taken a greater risk with the presence of a knife and tackled him... (do they absolutely have to take a risk like that though when they have firearms?). This guy is now hospitalised and potentially paralised from the waist down.
The way it was portrayed though was the usual rush to outcry - the clip shown was a viral one only showing the later part of the incident on the driver's side of the car - all we see is him moving around to open his car door and the police officer shooting him in the back.. out of context it looks horrific. Twitter blows up, celebrities tweet it - another example of racist policing - here this is another completely irrelevant clip of the cops conducting a traffic stop on an angry white person notice how he doesn't get shot.... therefore racism.
The media certainly doesn't help matters, ket bits of info are omitted or drip fed post outrage - outrage is better for news events. With the interviews of his family being presented the way they were plenty of people were left with the impression that he'd been killed by the police... "say his name" etc.. certainly the fact he was a sex offender and domestic abuser turning up at his victim's address wasn't very prominent as that does undermine the narrative, that he was armed with a knife was left ambiguous too - drip fed as a knife being found in the car... (eagle eyed social media users spotted he was seemingly carrying it in the video footage days ago) the more pertinent detail that it was found in the car because he'd pulled the knife out when struggling with officers and still had it in his hand when going back and reaching into the car was left out still initially... it has only come out now not because of information from the local prosecutor but because the police union has confirmed it.
He was originally handcuffed to his bed in hosptial, this got some negative publicity (though apparently is standard there), he's now not as the warrants are not in force thanks ot him posting a bond (presumably from the donations that have flooded in) - one dubious aspect of this, now this guy is a celebrated victim of police brutality is the awkward nature of his outstanding charge for sexual assualt - will there now be presure on a sexual assualt victim to drop the charges so Jacob Blake can carry on being held up as a victim or will they drop him quietly and no longer say his name?
So far over 2 million dollars have been raised on gofundme for a domestic abuser/sexual assualter who turned up to his victim's house with a knife - someone who abuses women shouldn't ordinarily be a SJW cause celebre but sometiems it seems things are so far gone that the identity politics part is more improtant to some than his actions - he wasn't some random person who happened to be black, the police were called by the victim specifically to deal with him and knew he was wanted:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/justiceforjacobblake
Even gofundme is political now - the unhinged LARPer cop wannabe kid who shot three had his fundraiser pulled pretty quickly by the site... his is hosted on some conservative christian fundraising site.
Initial footage released:
Second angle:
How CNN portrays the second angle/additional footage:
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2...g-second-video-family-attorney-newday-vpx.cnn